# Trump Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Enough Votes to Overturn Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592 "2021-01-03T20:06:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/283 "2021-01-05T16:34:46Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > They seemed perfectly fine with all this and backed Trump 1000% when all this happened, even putting Trump and his ego above the health and welfare of the citizens of their state by backing his COVID non-response. And they continued to support him. They voted for him. > > And now Trump’s coming for them. Good. They deserve it. There’s an article in, I think, the NY Times today noting that according to reports, Trump doesn’t understand why Kemp doesn’t do whatever he tells him to. They mean that quite literally; he is incapable of understanding why Kemp does not follow his orders. Apparently, since Trump helped Kemp win the governor’s race in 2018, he believes Kemp is now his minion, and just assumed Kemp would do anything he was told. When it’s explained to him that Kemp is a governor of a state, and so doesn’t work for Trump and has to do what Georgia’s laws say, he struggles to comprehend that. What is perhaps shocking is that anyone would be surprised by that. Trump has acted that way HIS ENTIRE LIFE. He has literally treated every “ally” he’s ever had by this. Why everyone who talks with him doesn’t record the conversation is a mystery to me. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/284 "2021-01-05T16:38:23Z")
I also think Trump is unable to distinguish running a private company from running a government, especially a Federation with separation of powers. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/285 "2021-01-05T16:48:26Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Hn_9fQRiK9Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Illegal Georgia Election Phone Call By President Trump?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_9fQRiK9Q) Legal Eagle did a good analysis of the illegality of Trump’s call. He concludes that it is pretty problematic for Trump were he to be charged. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/286 "2021-01-05T16:50:45Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The SoS said that if Trump hadn’t tweeted lies about the call, **he wouldn’t have released the recording.** He would have **covered up** Trump’s blatant attempt at voter fraud. Because he believes Trump didn’t do anything illegal. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/287 "2021-01-05T16:56:21Z")
That’s Trump. The SoS knows it’s illegal. He just doesn’t care. As long as he’s not personally lied about, the country can go to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/288 "2021-01-05T17:01:25Z")
I have no idea how to find it but Raffensperger is on record as saying that Trump did not do anything illegal when Trump called. Trying to find that statement only brings up a bunch of stuff claiming that the recording was an illegal wiretap. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/289 "2021-01-05T17:03:08Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Two warnings for the same thing? This warning appears to be for a link to a Facebook approved fact checking site and my opinion being something that upsets liberals. Listen, I understand that cancel culture is coming for me on this site. Not because was rude or didn’t debate in good faith. But I because I am just too effective at debunking liberals. As noted earlier, NY Times editor Dean Baquet said it best: " _ **the Left as a rule does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement"** _ Modding: This comment is not allowed outside ATMB. And, just for the record, they were two warnings for two different things. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/290 "2021-01-05T17:33:43Z")
Where is this from? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/291 "2021-01-05T17:39:11Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > Where is this from?.. It was surely a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/292 "2021-01-05T17:49:13Z")
Trump is threatening to turn up in 2022 and campaign against Kemp and Raffensperger. Is it still okay to do references to Br’er Rabbit and briar patches or have we moved on? > **['Fight like hell': grievance and denialism rule at Trump Georgia rally](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/fight-like-hell-grievance-and-denialism-rule-at-trump-georgia-rally)** > > Unrepentant president urges voters to support Republicans in the Senate runoffs on Tuesday and veers off script with bogus claims of a stolen election Also, take a moment to look closely at the picture (or video still, I guess) in that article. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/293 "2021-01-05T17:54:01Z")
WTH is a white guy in that picture wearing a “Blacks for Trump” shirt? That’s not an endorsement of Trump by any black people, just what a Trumpy white person _wants_ to be true. ETA: I get that there are black Trump voters, but a white guy wearing this shirt says nothing about that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/294 "2021-01-05T17:57:31Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > WTH is a white guy in that picture wearing a “Blacks for Trump” shirt? That’s not an endorsement of Trump by any black people, just what a Trumpy white person _wants_ to be true. And you’ve answered your own question. Alternate theory: his family name is Black. > [@](#): > > ETA: I get that there are black Trump voters, but a white guy wearing this shirt says nothing about that. There appear to be a couple of them just below the big, extremely white guy with the shirt. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/295 "2021-01-05T17:58:21Z")
This commercial (“_How about NO!_”) was loved over in the Annoying Commercials thread - It would have been great for Raff to have sent it over to Loser Donald right after the ill-fated call… [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuiNmZEO60s) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/296 "2021-01-05T17:58:57Z")
perhaps he did an ancestry thing and found out he has a smidgeon of african ancestry? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/297 "2021-01-05T18:01:15Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > This commercial (“ _How about NO!_ ”) was loved over in the Annoying Commercials thread - It would have been great for Raff to have sent it over to Loser Donald right after the ill-fated call… Or this… [![](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SRf_tuCALSE/Vd7uwDfVjyI/AAAAAAAAA2g/mnlynYPlgwc/s1600/NO-www-scarfolk-blogspot-com.jpg) ](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SRf_tuCALSE/Vd7uwDfVjyI/AAAAAAAAA2g/mnlynYPlgwc/s1600/NO-www-scarfolk-blogspot-com.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/298 "2021-01-05T18:04:28Z")
> [@illoe](#): > > My goodness, ma’am. If you look up Dunning-Krueger you might increase your effectiveness tenfold and then the liberals will really be in trouble! Mod note: This is inappropriate outside the Pit. Please refrain from directly attacking another poster. No warning. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/299 "2021-01-05T18:08:14Z")
I suspect the white guy with the ‘Blacks for Trump’ shirt may be trolling. Sort of like that guy that made all of the confused facial expressions while at one of Trumps ralleys. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/300 "2021-01-05T18:08:37Z")
I wonder what they think of a white guy speaking for them? I’m sure they get this (and more) happening to them all the time, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/301 "2021-01-05T18:14:06Z")
From the article: “you can’t get 73m votes and not win. You can’t have rallies like this and not win.” Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/302 "2021-01-05T18:14:21Z")
And then there’s this bit of brilliance: > Janie Lopez, 42, a counsellor from San Benito, Texas, agreed: “He wants to make sure they **cross the i’s and dot the t’s** and this is the final count. He wants to make sure this is a fair election.” I really can’t tell if she’s having us on or not… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592.md?page=16)