# Trump recognises foreign interference in US elections ..

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 27, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067 "2018-09-27T22:33:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/1 "2018-09-27T22:33:18Z")

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… the upcoming 2018 elections, by China, by placing ads in the Iowa’s Sunday Des Moines Register.

[Trump accuses China of ‘attempting to interfere’ with US elections in UN speech](http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-27/trump-accuses-china-of-attempting-to-interfere-in-elections/10309728)

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> President Donald Trump has accused China of attempting to interfere with the upcoming United States congressional elections, and claimed its efforts are motivated by opposition to his tough trade policy.

I’d post some critical analysis but my irony chip has just fried.  
But you can’t deny, on this topic, at least Trump knows his onions.

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> With the elections less than two months away, US intelligence officials have said they are not now seeing the intensity of Russian intervention registered in 2016 but are particularly concerned about activity by Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/2 "2018-09-27T23:23:36Z")

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Oh, he recognizes the kind that diverts attention from his Russian interests. How amazingly contrived and convenient. And magnanimous, can’t forget that.

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**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/3 "2018-09-28T01:23:12Z")

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Well, he’s lied about every other thing so how am I supposed to trust him now?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/4 "2018-09-28T01:27:44Z")

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I saw this yesterday. I think we’re getting a telegraph about how Republicans plan to proceed in the wake of the mid-term election.

I expect them to fiercely contest every single close race, especially in the Senate. Trump may even attempt to declare the election “illegitimate” due to “Chinese election interference.”

It’s a scary proposition and I don’t even really know what should be done if this happens.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/5 "2018-09-28T12:04:58Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Trump may even attempt to declare the election “illegitimate” due to “Chinese election interference.”.

That’s a rather thin edge on a very big wedge, no?

To paraphrase Orwell, all electoral interference is equal, but some electoral interference is more equal than others.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/6 "2018-09-28T14:04:39Z")

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You can’t leave the door ajar and then complain about who’s walking in.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/7 "2018-09-29T11:23:30Z")

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I presume that he’s talking about how they are targeting Trump voters through their tariffs, which is certainly true.

I’m sure that they’re also doing more than that, but I think the obvious explanation for his statement is probably the correct one.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/8 "2018-09-29T11:42:11Z")

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I can’t help noticing that the way they are doing this ‘interference’ is by openly publishing a bunch of, as far as I can see, true (if undoubtedly partisan) information under a big banner clearly labelled as an advertising message from China.

Would that all election interference was as straightforward.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-recognises-foreign-interference-in-us-elections/822067/9 "2018-09-29T16:04:58Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> That’s a rather thin edge on a very big wedge, no?
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> To paraphrase Orwell, all electoral interference is equal, but some electoral interference is more equal than others.

Sure, but when has asserting the outrageous ever been a bar to Trump making such assertions? Worse, if it comes out of his mouth, there are nearly 40% of slavering supporters willing to accept whatever is said as truth from the almighty himself.

And then we’ve got a problem with respect to the validity of the 2018 election results.
