# Trump requests ride in Queen's carriage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 15, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505 "2017-04-15T15:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/61 "2017-04-16T14:27:17Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > The Brits, overall, would like to see Thrump in a tumbrel. So would a lot of Americans, around half I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/62 "2017-04-16T14:59:03Z")
> [@APB](#): > > That’s an example of a news report that actually seems to have most of the relevant facts and yet puts them together in the wrong way. I’m reminded of [this recent thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=822523). Especially since all other news sources point back to that one article in _The Times_. Sounds to me like such a carriage ride is [more or less SOP for state visits](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328970-trump-wants-to-ride-in-gold-plated-carriage-with-the-queen), and US presidents typically opt out (for obvious security reasons), and Trump (or some folks in his administration) are rethinking that. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/63 "2017-04-16T15:49:45Z")
> [@APB](#): > > …I would offer one suggestion to Her Majesty. I do hope that she borrows [Renoir’s _La Loge_](http://courtauld.ac.uk/gallery/what-on/exhibitions-displays/archive/renoir-at-the-theatre-looking-at-la-loge) from the Courtauld and hangs it in the apartment she provides for them. You know, [to make Melania feel at home](http://nairobiwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trump6.jpg). The French Impressionists? I hasten to remind, a love of Monet is the root of all evil! ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/64 "2017-04-16T16:49:13Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Although I’m loathe to dismiss an entire group of people simply because they have views that don’t align with mine or find themselves supporting a candidate because of specific views even if they don’t agree with everything he or she stands for, at this point if you haven’t figured out that not only is Trump a bigoted, infantile, misogynistic, reflexively ignorant, supercilious Internet troll with no clue as to what to do in the job that somewhat less than half of the voters actually elected him to but that he is also pathologically incapable of being honest or recognizing his own failings, well, it kind of says a lot about your own integrity and intellect. The most patently repugnant thing about Trump, his terrible fashion sense, treatment of women, and inability to speak in complete sentences even when reading from a Teleprompter aside, is that he has somehow convened his ardent supports to openly lie in order to dismiss the factually provable criticisms of his actions and statements. He has turned well-meaing if perhaps misguided people into perpetually monophonic fabulists in their attempts to somehow justify the execrable of their candidate of preference. > > Stranger I wish I’d said that. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/65 "2017-04-16T17:16:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The French Impressionists? I hasten to remind, a love of Monet is the root of all evil! I’m going to need you to sit in the hall and think seriously about what you’ve done here. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/66 "2017-04-16T17:46:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Its the apartment Auric Goldfinger would have had if he got away with it. I have it on good authority that Trump is having the White House bowling alley reworked so that by the touch of a button the lanes will unfold into a diorama showing the location and vulernabilities of North Korea’s biggest coal mine, and his diabolical plan to nerve gas the troops guarding it, drive in disguised as officers, and place a small but particularly dirty nuclear device provided by Pakistan to irradiate all of the coal, thus increasing the value of US coal mines tenfold, conservatively speaking. His chief lieutenant in this act is stunt pilot Kellyanne “Notapussy” Conway and her Flying Circus of all female pilots. Steve Bannon, decked out in a steel-brimmed red “Make America Great Again” ballcap will be on hand to assure that no one interferes with the plan. Our only hope is that a bumbling, alcoholic, lascivious British Secret Intelligence Service agent will seduce Kellyanne (ugh!) and cause her to betray her boss’ plan, rigging the planes with fake gas and allow the agent to deactivate the weapon at the last possible second. It is a sad, sad day when it is up to the British to save civilization as we know it. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/67 "2017-04-16T18:21:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m reminded of [this recent thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=822523). Especially since all other news sources point back to that one article in _The Times_. > > Sounds to me like such a carriage ride is [more or less SOP for state visits](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328970-trump-wants-to-ride-in-gold-plated-carriage-with-the-queen), and US presidents typically opt out (for obvious security reasons), and Trump (or some folks in his administration) are rethinking that. Or something. Protocol is that the Queen invites you to ride, you do not demand it. The Queen may not have wanted his dumb ass in her carriage. Especially her golden one. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/68 "2017-04-16T18:22:54Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I have it on good authority that Trump is having the White House bowling alley reworked so that by the touch of a button the lanes will unfold into a diorama showing the location and vulernabilities of North [Korea]… Hey Don, why did you add a second lane? What, are you using it as a cover for installing a secret diorama? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/69 "2017-04-16T18:49:30Z")
Whereupon the Korean bodyguard takes off his hat, and you realize you’ve made a terrible mistake. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/70 "2017-04-16T18:57:58Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Protocol is that the Queen invites you to ride, you do not demand it. The Queen may not have wanted his dumb ass in her carriage. Especially her golden one. Maybe she should let him ride it just before the stroke of midnight … ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/71 "2017-04-16T19:17:25Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Protocol is that the Queen invites you to ride, you do not demand it. The Queen may not have wanted his dumb ass in her carriage. Especially her golden one. Believe whatever you like. I’m just skeptical when there is only one source for a claim, and their source is some unnamed “official”. And I suspect the Queen knows enough about duty that if she were required, by protocol, to ride in a carriage with Trump, she’d do it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/72 "2017-04-16T19:18:47Z")
Her Majesty is a woman of mature years, and is prone to any number of minor maladies that often and regrettably affect her schedule. However, my fondest wish remains he boorishly insults the Queen and Prince Phillip thrashes him like a guttersnipe. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/73 "2017-04-16T19:20:43Z")
Weird that both stories (this one and the one about the supposed bill presented to Angela Merkel) were only published in The Times of London. I always thought that this was a respectable paper. So do they just have a _really_ good inside source or are their standards slipping? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/74 "2017-04-17T00:39:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Her Majesty is a woman of mature years, and is prone to any number of minor maladies that often and regrettably affect her schedule. However, my fondest wish remains he boorishly insults the Queen and Prince Phillip thrashes him like a guttersnipe. Mine is that he has a heart attack and dies. No tie-in to a state visit to England required. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/75 "2017-04-17T02:01:36Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Mine is that he has a heart attack and dies. No tie-in to a state visit to England required. Mine is that he has a heart attack and dies someplace really embarrassing, like amid a gaggle of Russian Pee Hookers. In the Lincoln bedroom. In a sea of pee on Lincoln’s bed. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/76 "2017-04-17T05:51:33Z")
> [@APB](#): > > Perhaps the most ridiculous was that he allegedly wants to play a round of golf with the Queen at his (very controversial) golf resort outside Aberdeen. Because that would be a fun day out for a non-golf-playing nonagenarian. In any case, isn’t that what Prince Andrew is for? I would hope that the UK government is not going to enable Trump to further enrich himself at tax-payers expense, especially UK ones. Don’t let him stay at any property he owns in the UK (requiring vast numbers of security and entourage to pay for rooms at his own properties). If he says no, then fine, no state visit. The full state visit is a privilege offered to a head of state by the Queen, not something he can dictate terms on. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/77 "2017-04-17T06:12:28Z")
When the visit was first talked about, there were reports that it would take place at Balmoral. That would be VERY unusual for any kind of official event, so I assumed it was bogus, but maybe it would be best. He’s not going to be any less controversial in October, and huge protests are not good hospitality, so hiding him away in rural Scotland might be for the best. And it’s the Queen’s private property (which is why the report seemed off), and Trump is all about doing public business on private property. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/78 "2017-04-17T11:04:02Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Mine is that he has a heart attack and dies someplace really embarrassing, like amid a gaggle of Russian Pee Hookers. In the Lincoln bedroom. In a sea of pee on Lincoln’s bed. Nitpick: Lincoln probably never slept in the [Lincoln bed.](http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/furnishings/lincoln-bed.htm) Personally, I hope he dies a slow and agonizing death due to complications of syphilis. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/79 "2017-04-17T12:34:56Z")
May he drown, holding copies of his 5 deferments, in the accumulated rotted corpses of all the soldiers who have been sent to fight wars that were only in the interest of fat, rich old white men. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505/80 "2017-04-18T22:01:04Z")
she pretends to run the UK and Trump pretends to run the US 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-requests-ride-in-queens-carriage/784505.md?page=5)