# Trump scandal and corruption omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880 "2016-11-13T18:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/141 "2016-11-18T22:01:52Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I expect the parts of his administration that are not corruption will be part suppression and part incompetence. I don’t think what you opine is unreasonable, but I do think it’s a lot less fun than scandals are. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/142 "2016-11-19T10:05:16Z")
While not legally admitting guilt, Trump paid out $25 million to settle Trump University lawsuits. Probably chump change compared to the money his construction companies will be making in the upcoming infrastructure spending boom. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/143 "2016-11-19T10:19:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I expect the parts of his administration that are not corruption will be part suppression and part incompetence. Oh, there’s going to be a great deal of malice too. He’s a notoriously thin-skinned, bad tempered and vengeful man who is guaranteed to use his power to stomp on all sorts of people for various reasons out of sheer spite. It’s the way he’s always behaved after all; he just now has a lot more power to hurt people with and essentially no restraint on his actions. And he also is surrounding himself and putting into positions of authority people who are _all about_ malice; from his Vice President who wants to “cure” homosexuals with torture on down. There’s also the question of whether his inevitable sexual assaults on women will count as _merely_ scandals. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/144 "2016-11-19T15:26:25Z")
Certainly not a scandal- not _yet_, anyway, give it time- but [Pence attended a showing of Hamilton on Friday night](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/us/mike-pence-hamilton.html?_r=0). He was booed by the audience. Afterwards, the cast addressed him directly: “We, sir — we — are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights. We truly hope that this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and to work on behalf of all of us.” Trump, predictably, took exception to this. Over Twitter: > [@](#): > > Our wonderful future V.P. Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing.This should not happen! And then, of course, he demanded an apology: > [@](#): > > The Theater must always be a safe and special place.The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/145 "2016-11-19T15:58:52Z")
So Trump calling for safe spaces? Isn’t that the sort of thing for which people are making fun of college students? And why is he using Twitter? He really needs to start acting presidential and that does not include sending tweets. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/146 "2016-11-19T16:11:41Z")
It does now. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/147 "2016-11-19T16:15:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So Trump calling for safe spaces? Isn’t that the sort of thing for which people are making fun of college students? > > And why is he using Twitter? He really needs to start acting presidential and that does not include sending tweets. Eh. Obama is a tweeter, and set the president. 🙂 Presidents have been using the latest communication tools for some time. I don’t see anything unpresidential about tweeting. It’s the content that determines that, not the medium. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/148 "2016-11-19T16:52:32Z")
You’re correct that it’s the content that’s the difference. [Here](https://twitter.com/potus) is the Twitter account for President Obama while [here](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) is Donald Trump’s account. Obama’s official POTUS account (which will be handed over to Trump on January 20) advances his agenda and makes nice, inoffensive statements about things like Veterans’ Day. Trump uses his account to respond to slights and perceived insults. That’s the bit that’s undignified. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/149 "2016-11-19T21:23:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So Trump calling for safe spaces? Isn’t that the sort of thing for which people are making fun of college students? Remember Bush and “free speech zones”? The Republicans only object to “safe spaces” for other people. They think they should be allowed to shout insults and threats at anyone they please without any reaction from their targets harsher than quiet submission, but totally freak out at even the slightest contradiction or criticism from anyone else. Donald “Twitter Temper Tantrum” Trump really fits in with them. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/150 "2016-11-20T12:25:42Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Sure. Is it customary for a president-elect? Next year as president if he stays home it would be a big deal. By this time next year if he hasn’t been kicking the ass of the VA it will be a big deal. Now? Not so much. [USA Today 11/11/2008 Obama marks Veterans Day with wreath-laying](http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-11-11-2873054939_x.htm) > [@](#): > > “Let us rededicate ourselves to keep a sacred trust with all who have worn the uniform of the United States of America: that America will serve you as well as you have served your country,” Obama said in a statement. “As your next commander in chief, I promise to work every single day to keep that sacred trust with all who have served.” > > One week after winning the presidential election, Obama took a brief break from his primary tasks of planning his administration and monitoring the economic crisis to mark Veterans Day at the bronze soldiers memorial between the Field Museum and Soldier Field in Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/151 "2016-11-20T14:53:10Z")
Did Trump already break the law he, the media and the right wing spent the last 2 years complaining Hillary broke? He is using insecure communications for government communications (talking to people on his private phone). ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/152 "2016-11-20T15:02:42Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Did Trump already break the law he, the media and the right wing spent the last 2 years complaining Hillary broke? He is using insecure communications for government communications (talking to people on his private phone). He’s not government yet. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/153 "2016-11-20T15:34:37Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > He’s not government yet. So when he does it on January 21st can we start pushing for his prosecution? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/154 "2016-11-20T16:04:43Z")
I doubt that he will be using a private phone once he takes office. Obama was famously a Blackberry user before he was president but they took away his Blackberry. I think they replaced it with a secure phone provided by Lockheed Martin. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/155 "2016-11-21T17:17:38Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So Trump calling for safe spaces? Isn’t that the sort of thing for which people are making fun of college students? > > And why is he using Twitter? He really needs to start acting presidential and that does not include sending tweets. You are expecting far too much from him. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/156 "2016-11-21T18:17:28Z")
According to TPM, Trump used the occasion of a congratulatory conversation with Argentine President Macri to ask Macri [to clear up some permit issues](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cashing-in-bigly-in-argentina) he’s been having with a proposed building in Buenos Aires. Draining the swamp indeed. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/157 "2016-11-21T18:29:48Z")
I saw a FB post saying Trump is going to use his terrific secret plan to destroy ISIS once he’s first taken care of the casts of _Hamilton_ and _SNL_. You know, the threats to his ego, not the country or its citizenry. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/158 "2016-11-21T18:38:18Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I saw a FB post saying Trump is going to use **his terrific secret plan to destroy ISIS** once he’s first taken care of the casts of _Hamilton_ and _SNL_. > > You know, the threats to his ego, not the country or its citizenry. There’s time to deal with uppity stage actors as his Generals To Be Named Later haven’t come up with the secret plan he had back in March(or whenever). ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/159 "2016-11-22T00:39:21Z")
[Cashing in - bigly](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cashing-in-bigly-in-argentina) > [@](#): > > Over the weekend, there were a flurry of stories about how Donald Trump and his family are already using the presidency to leverage his overseas businesses as well as his new DC hotel. Well, now there’s more. This time in Argentina. > > Here’s the background. > > For a number of years, Trump and his Argentine partners have been trying to build a major office building in Buenos Aires. The project has been held up by a series of complications tied to financing, importation of building materials and various permitting requirements. > > According to a report out of Argentina, when Argentine President Mauricio Macri called President-Elect Trump to congratulate him on his election, Trump asked Macri to deal with the permitting issues that are currently holding up the project. > [@](#): > > This comes from one of Argentina’s most prominent journalists, Jorge Lanata, in a recent TV appearance. Lanata is quoted here in La Nacion, one of Argentina’s most prestigious dailies. Said Lanata: “Macri called him. This still hasn’t emerged but Trump asked for them to authorize a building he’s constructing in Buenos Aires, it wasn’t just a geopolitical chat." Can someone familiar with Argentina comment? > [@](#): > > Late Update 2:32 PM: Both President Macri and President-Elect Trump have denied that they discussed Trump’s building project during their post-election phone conversation. > > Later Update: 2:48 PM: We received this statement from the Trump campaign: “Any reports alleging a discussion about personal business interests between President-elect Trump and President Macri are completely untrue. The Argentine President and his office have also refuted these baseless claims.” > > Even Later Update 2:53 PM: And now a full statement from the Embassy of Argentina: “That issue was not part of the conversation between president Mauricio Macri and president-elect Donald Trump. The subject both leaders talked about was the institutional relationship, and they briefly mentioned the personal relationship they have had for years”. Would have been embarrassing to have had the report confirmed. But it certainly sounds as if it would have been in character. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/160 "2016-11-22T14:28:42Z")
> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#): > > According to TPM, Trump used the occasion of a congratulatory conversation with Argentine President Macri to ask Macri [to clear up some permit issues](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cashing-in-bigly-in-argentina) he’s been having with a proposed building in Buenos Aires. Draining the swamp indeed. Yeah. He’s already trying to use the office of President to further his business deals. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880.md?page=9)