# Trump scandal and corruption omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880 "2016-11-13T18:58:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/161 "2016-11-22T14:36:16Z")

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No prob. Simply extend his triumphant Victory Tour to Argentina, and give them their opportunity to adore him. Like his deft diplomacy when he visited Mexico. If there’s anything that will assure you universal approval in Central and South America, its Americans coming down to tell them what to do. No, really, they love that shit!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/162 "2016-11-22T16:11:28Z")

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When did our country turn into a dark comedy series on HBO?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/163 "2016-11-22T17:29:34Z")

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Lanata is not precisely the most trustworthy of our journalists, I’ve seen him reporting things as true that he had not only not verified carefully but that he obviously had _no way_ to verify, just because they were sensational or were against someone with whom he had one of his vendettas.  
That said, he also broke many important news that ended up being true, so you never know.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/164 "2016-11-22T17:46:02Z")

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I’m starting to feel a little better about the Trump presidency. These questionable business deals keep piling up, pretty soon someone will uncover a blowjob. And then the Congress will surely leap into action.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/165 "2016-11-22T17:56:55Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m starting to feel a little better about the Trump presidency. These questionable business deals keep piling up, pretty soon someone will uncover a blowjob. And then the Congress will surely leap into action.

And you’ll get president Pence…

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/166 "2016-11-22T18:25:23Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> And you’ll get president Pence…

But not for long. I’m like 90% sure Pence is blowing someone too.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/167 "2016-11-22T18:32:33Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> But not for long. I’m like 90% sure Pence is blowing someone too.

So president Ryan then?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/168 "2016-11-22T18:38:24Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m starting to feel a little better about the Trump presidency. These questionable business deals keep piling up, pretty soon someone will uncover a blowjob. And then the Congress will surely leap into action.

> [@Frodo](#):
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> And you’ll get president Pence…

> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> But not for long. I’m like 90% sure Pence is blowing someone too.

> [@Frodo](#):
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> So president Ryan then?

With those ears, it’s obvious he engages in aural sex.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/169 "2016-11-22T19:06:01Z")

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It’s blowjobs all the way down!

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/170 "2016-11-22T20:03:30Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Did Trump already break the law he, the media and the right wing spent the last 2 years complaining Hillary broke? He is using insecure communications for government communications (talking to people on his private phone).

Well, his potential Homeland Security pick is…well, the headline says it better than I can: Guy Who Wants to Run Department of Homeland Security Carrying Around Sensitive Documents Like a Goober.

[http://theslot.jezebel.com/guy-who-wants-to-run-department-of-homeland-security-ca-1789229197](http://theslot.jezebel.com/guy-who-wants-to-run-department-of-homeland-security-ca-1789229197)

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/171 "2016-11-22T21:06:03Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> Well, his potential Homeland Security pick is…well, the headline says it better than I can: Guy Who Wants to Run Department of Homeland Security Carrying Around Sensitive Documents Like a Goober.
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> [http://theslot.jezebel.com/guy-who-wants-to-run-department-of-homeland-security-ca-1789229197](http://theslot.jezebel.com/guy-who-wants-to-run-department-of-homeland-security-ca-1789229197)

Remember when the Right collectively lost their shit when Hillary, during a debate, said that we could launch missiles in three minutes or so (and thereby endangered our national security or somesuch), something that has been known for decades?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/172 "2016-11-22T23:23:44Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Yeah. He’s already trying to use the office of President to further his business deals.

Any chance that Trump knows that this presidency doesn’t last long, and he has to grab the cash with both hands as fast as he can?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/173 "2016-11-23T00:42:33Z")

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I’m guessing here, but its probably more a matter of what worries the advisers he actually listens to. And their worry would be along the lines of exposing his business ties and the various financial entanglements it rests upon.

Its not fair to say that because he hides his income and business, that _necessarily_ means he is hiding something indictable, if not merely unscrupulous. Sure, but if everything were totally and provably _kosher_ and full of _boney fido_ investments, wouldn’t that make for a simply splendid press release? Couldn’t he crow about that from the mountaintops, how he was persecuted and hounded but innocent as a lamb?

But he chooses not to? Out of modesty?

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/174 "2016-11-23T03:34:12Z")

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[Donald J. Trump met with the British politician Nigel Farage asked him to help keep the wind farm from going up near his gold resort.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-a-british-wind-farm-fight.html?_r=0)  
This one, Trump, hizzself, bragged about.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/175 "2016-11-24T01:10:30Z")

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[Trump’s Kleptocracy Is So Astounding It Already Feels Like Old News](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/trumps-kleptocracy-already-feels-like-old-news.html?mid=facebook_nymag)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/176 "2016-11-24T05:08:52Z")

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Don’t be too hasty! Really, what’s wrong with United States of Trump, other than some sentimental attachment to some obscure Italian cartographer? US Trump, everybody gets a share!

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/177 "2016-11-24T17:44:43Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Lanata is not precisely the most trustworthy of our journalists, I’ve seen him reporting things as true that he had not only not verified carefully but that he obviously had _no way_ to verify, just because they were sensational or were against someone with whom he had one of his vendettas.  
> That said, he also broke many important news that ended up being true, so you never know.

Considering that it took only three days for the permits to be granted after the conversation, the circumstantial evidence it strong that the conversation took place as described.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/178 "2016-11-24T18:04:44Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Considering that it took only three days for the permits to be granted after the conversation, the circumstantial evidence it strong that the conversation took place as described.

Yup.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/179 "2016-11-24T23:48:12Z")

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The thing that I find so irritating is that if Hillary had won the Presidency and had done any one of these things, the howls of outrage from the right would be deafening- and rightly so, as they’re quite clearly scandal-worthy.

But the right has been remarkably silent this past week or so, aside from a few peeps about Trump’s failure to keep up his promise of locking up Hillary.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scandal-and-corruption-omnibus-thread/771880/180 "2016-11-25T05:05:29Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> The thing that I find so irritating is that if Hillary had won the Presidency and had done any one of these things, the howls of outrage from the right would be deafening- and rightly so, as they’re quite clearly scandal-worthy.

I don’t buy any of the theories about Trump being a master persuader or an evil genius or any of that, but he has discovered the secret to getting away with stuff in the era of the 24/7 news cycle - volume. He just does something outrageous each day, or even multiple times a day, which means that no one act can ever metastasize and bring him down. His critics sound like lunatics if they actually sit down and try to list all the awful shit he does.

However, the constant stream of crap has had the effect of making him the most unpopular president-to-be in modern times, and it’s hard to see him actually winning back any of the people he pisses off for one reason or another. Just because nothing _has_ brought him down yet doesn’t mean nothing _will_, especially if he continues along the lines of blatant cronyism with his real estate properties that he has begun.

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