# Trump SCOTUS nominees facing a Democratic Senate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 4, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963 "2018-11-04T07:04:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/101 "2018-11-08T19:16:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> With a system that says 600,000 people in Wyoming gets the same amount of Senators as 40,000,000 in California.

Not responsive to the question that was being asked, which was directed at the comments by **DragonAsh** that Democrats can’t win back red Senate seats without first being able to undo gerrymandered districts in red states. To which I also say, how does that gerrymandering affect the ability of a state’s populace to vote for a Democratic senatorial candidate??

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/102 "2018-11-08T19:19:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> With a system that says 600,000 people in Wyoming gets the same amount of Senators as 40,000,000 in California.

Did you also know that there’s an EU body where Luxembourg gets the same number of votes as France?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/103 "2018-11-08T19:37:04Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Not responsive to the question that was being asked, which was directed at the comments by **DragonAsh** that Democrats can’t win back red Senate seats without first being able to undo gerrymandered districts in red states. To which I also say, how does that gerrymandering affect the ability of a state’s populace to vote for a Democratic senatorial candidate??

The senate can be considered to be gerrymandered by that forefathers, and also a bit by the way that states are set up. For instance, do we really need 2 dakotas? What’s wyoming but a southern branch of montana? Idaho, don’t you mean northern utah?

But yeah, the senate is actually relatively important, and undoing the gerrymandering of the house does little good if the senate continues to reflect the will of large swaths of uninhabited land rather than the people of the country.

I assume that DragonAsh misspoke, in regards to the senate, but I will agree with the idea that it is harder to win back the senate, to put a democrat in office, when your state representative delegation is all republican.

> [@adaher](#):
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> Did you also know that there’s an EU body where Luxembourg gets the same number of votes as France?

Do they confirm people to a supreme court that can affect the women’s reproductive rights?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/104 "2018-11-08T20:09:47Z")

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They don’t need a court for that. EU countries can regulate abortion pretty much however they want, and do.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/105 "2018-11-08T20:14:37Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> They don’t need a court for that. EU countries can regulate abortion pretty much however they want, and do.

And Luxembourgh (and many other EU countries) already has more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S. You can get an abortion 4 weeks later in freakin Mississippi.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/106 "2018-11-08T20:22:21Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> They don’t need a court for that. EU countries can regulate abortion pretty much however they want, and do.

Right, which is my point. It is a completely different body with completely different rule, and completely different power over the people it represents. It is also not elected by the people, but appointed by the various national governments.

And, if we are finally at the point where we can look at europe and justify what we do here based on what they do, can we start looking into UHC now?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/107 "2018-11-08T20:28:23Z")

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> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#):
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> I count 16 unique words and 2 numbers. Which word does he use and not understand? I’m betting it’s the word a. That’s a tricky one to use properly.

Gerrymandering.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-scotus-nominees-facing-a-democratic-senate/823963/108 "2018-11-28T14:58:22Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> OK, say you and I are playing Monopoly, and we get into an argument about whether or not one should take all the money from Chance and Community Chest when one lands on Free Parking. It’s an argument Monopoly players have been having for almost a century. So you roll your dice, land on Free Parking and without asking for my permission, reach out and grab all the money. I get angry, but you just smirk and say, “New rule!” A few round pass, money builds up again, and them, BAM! I roll an 8 and land on Free Parking myself. I grin, and take the cash.
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> Now tell me… am I a hypocrite?

When you talk about how morally reprehensible (and probably illegal) it is when he does it AND that it is the most ethical thing to do because you are preventing the forces of evil from destroying the game when you do it … then yes you are a hypocrite.

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