# Trump speech live 01/08/2019: follow-along thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 9, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439 "2019-01-09T01:21:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/221 "2019-01-11T01:34:38Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I’m glad it’s just a price tag to you. Me too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/222 "2019-01-11T01:35:45Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Such a paltry sum. Why is it, do you suppose, that the Republicans didn’t approve it over the past 2 years when they had control over both houses of Congress and the presidency? I would guess it’s because funding measures had to pass through the Senate where the Dems had enough votes to filibuster. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/223 "2019-01-11T01:40:15Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I would guess it’s because funding measures had to pass through the Senate where the Dems had enough votes to filibuster. Hell, the Republicans didn’t even try to attach it to another spending bill the Dems wanted, did they? Something that would pass without filibuster? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/224 "2019-01-11T01:42:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “Requested”? :dubious: > > It isn’t a request if I can’t say no; it’s a demand. > > Trump is demanding that money, not requesting it. > > I am not surprised that you would try and characterize it as something it is not, tho. But you can say “no”. That’s exactly what Chuck & Nancy are currently doing. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/225 "2019-01-11T01:44:52Z")
Couldn’t Trump have declared a “national emergency” at any time over the past 2 years, since the border wall funding was of such urgency? I mean, it’s not possible he’s just playing politics with the wall funding, is it? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/226 "2019-01-11T01:46:38Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “This fight” is over $5.7B. That’s what President Trump requested for border fencing, and what it would cost to end the shutdown today. 1,500,000,000,000 - ``` 5,700,000 ``` = 1,499,994,300,000 Perhaps it may be more prudent to get that $5.7 billion out of the debt your guys laid upon 325,000,000 Americans so you can give 16,000 families $1.5 trillion of our hard earned money. There is no money for this government boondoggle, this paltry, pathetic jobs program, this example of wasteful government spending. No money. No wall. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/227 "2019-01-11T02:07:42Z")
What is sad is seeing the party whom… since the US put a man on the moon… have done nothing but decry the usefulness of government, claimed that nearly all spending is wasteful… 50 years after the moon landings, here they are, rejoicing in their partial destruction of the US government, at the behest of a Russian asset, all for a concrete wall. A technology path from the Apollo landings to a concrete wall: that, ladies and gentlemen, is modern conservativism’s gift to us. That and the traitor. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/228 "2019-01-11T02:13:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Hamsters have HUGE testicles in comparison to their body size. Fact check! My god, if the short fingered vulgarian had huge testicles in comparison to his fatness, he’d need to carry them about in a wheelbarrow. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/229 "2019-01-11T02:15:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What is sad is seeing the party whom… since the US put a man on the moon… have done nothing but decry the usefulness of government, claimed that nearly all spending is wasteful… 50 years after the moon landings, here they are, rejoicing in their partial destruction of the US government, at the behest of a Russian asset, all for a concrete wall. > > A technology path from the Apollo landings to a concrete wall: that, ladies and gentlemen, is modern conservativism’s gift to us. > > That and the traitor. Well said. And I just can’t figure out what they’re all so scared of. Poor, desperate Guatemalan women with toddlers? Ooga-booga!! It’s sickening. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/230 "2019-01-11T02:17:46Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > My god, if the short fingered vulgarian had huge testicles in comparison to his fatness, he’d need to carry them about in a wheelbarrow. Now, now. Stop talking about the short fingered vulgarian’s genitals. It gives **Ditka** the vapors. Although it didn’t seem to bother him when the short fingered vulgarian talked about them first. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/231 "2019-01-11T02:25:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > 1,500,000,000,000 > > - > > ``` > 5,700,000,000 > > ``` > > = > 1,494,300,000,000 > > Perhaps it may be more prudent to get that $5.7 billion out of the debt your guys laid upon 325,000,000 Americans so you can give 16,000 families $1.5 trillion of our hard earned money. > > There is no money for this government boondoggle, this paltry, pathetic jobs program, this example of wasteful government spending. > > No money. No wall. Math corrected. Sorry 'bout that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/232 "2019-01-11T03:22:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > But you can say “no”. That’s exactly what Chuck & Nancy are currently doing. You’re wrong. Trump isn’t letting anyone say no: it was not a request, it was a demand. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/233 "2019-01-11T03:45:12Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “This fight” is over $5.7B. That’s what President Trump requested for border fencing, and what it would cost to end the shutdown today. And then he says he changed his mind and he wants all of it. Or he wants to be President for Life. You dont give in to blackmailers. Let’s get one thing straight- The Constitution. _The House_ sets the Budget. Not the Executive office. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/234 "2019-01-11T03:49:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It _will_ keep out the Germans. No, they will just come in like _most_ illegal aliens do- by airplane, with a Visa. Which is why the Wall is useless. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/235 "2019-01-11T04:28:51Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > $5.7B is not going “bankrupt the nation”. Still too much to spend to coddle racist cowards, which is what this is all about. The only reason to think this wall thingy is necessary and would be effective is Trump’s say-so, and that has no worth at all. Speaking of Trump’s say-so, how much of that 5.7 billion will be going towards quaranting the smallpox and leprosy patients? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/236 "2019-01-11T04:43:37Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Speaking of Trump’s say-so, how much of that 5.7 billion will be going towards quaranting the smallpox and leprosy patients? It also needs to include Arabic-speaking translators, because I’m told there will be many “Middle Easterns” trying to cross. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/237 "2019-01-11T08:31:41Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “This fight” is over $5.7B. That’s what President Trump requested for border fencing, and what it would cost to end the shutdown today. What is that $5.7Billion actually for? It’s not quite clear. Nobody has made any clear plan, and without it, this may as well be 5.7B for a really nice backscratcher in the Oval Office. I thought it was supposed to be for the wall, but it wouldn’t get us 10% of the way there. > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I would guess it’s because funding measures had to pass through the Senate where the Dems had enough votes to filibuster. As opposed to now, when the dems have filibuster power and the majority in the house. Does that make more sense to you? Does any of this make you pause for a moment and say, “hang on, what I’m saying is kind of nonsense”? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/238 "2019-01-11T15:47:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And then he says he changed his mind and he wants all of it. Or he wants to be President for Life. > > You dont give in to blackmailers. > > Let’s get one thing straight- The Constitution. _The House_ sets the Budget. Not the Executive office. Besides, once you’ve paid the Danegeld, you’re never rid of the Dane. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/239 "2019-01-11T16:11:22Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Besides, once you’ve paid the Danegeld, you’re never rid of the Dane. For those unfamiliar with the phrase, it comes from [a poem by Kipling](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sLJ0iiFMvs)…although the first version I ever heard was [Leslie Fish’s musical rendition of that poem.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNtaCFe_KE) ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439/240 "2019-01-11T16:44:18Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > What is that $5.7Billion actually for? It’s not quite clear. Nobody has made any clear plan, and without it, this may as well be 5.7B for a really nice backscratcher in the Oval Office. I thought it was supposed to be for the wall, but it wouldn’t get us 10% of the way there. > > … As mentioned in other of the myriad Wall threads, it’s $5.7 billion so that he can remember to [hate on immigrants](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-advisors-only-invented-border-wall-idea-make-sure-he-slammed-1280503) at his rallies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-speech-live-01-08-2019-follow-along-thread/827439.md?page=13)