Trump speech live 01/08/2019: follow-along thread.

Well, sure it will go towards a Wall. A useless wall that only Trump wants, and he wants it for one thing only- to inflame his racist supporters.

Note that the DHS asked for $292 million, and got it. They didnt ask for FIFTEEN times that. If they wanted another 100 mill or so, there wouldnt be a issue.

I’m delighted to see that it’s not a mystery to all liberals.

Did you note that that was for FY 2017?

Where does the “issue” come into play in your mind? $1.6B is OK? What about $2B? Is $4B just way over the top?

$1 is too much. Especially given the $1.5 trillion of tax-giveaways to the billionaires you guys did a year ago.

As I asked, why couldn’t your team be bothered to deduct this money from the tax scam and give Zuckerburg, Buffet, et all $1.495 trillion?

The bottom line is Dems cannot capitulate on this whether it is $5 or $5 billion.

Trump is acting like a terrorist (using intimidation against civilians in the pursuit of political aims) and there is a firm policy against negotiating with terrorists. There is a reason for that. If they give Trump his money he will learn all he ever needs to do is shut down the government and wait till he gets what he wants.

Not gonna happen.

Hey, looks like I got away with it, calling Il Douche a big fat liar over those “dozens of families” he is supposed to have met and hugged. Figured ol’ HD was gonna slap me down hard with the links and the photos and all that good stuff!

Whew! What a relief!

Both Ravenman and DrDeth appear to support at least $100M. Chuck has already agreed to $1.6B. In fact …

If you’re part of the Pelosi-style “not $1” crowd, you might want to brace yourself for some disappointment from your friends.

Nah, it the Republicans and friends the ones that get the disappointment.

Man, is there a single point you’ve made this thread that wasn’t just completely and utterly wrong? Like, I’m almost impressed. How do you get to be this wrong? Everything you just said - wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. It’s really incredible!

With juvenile fact-free responses like this, I think I’m doing ok. :wink:

That would depend on what your goal is, I suppose.

My goal is to present the other side of the debate in a forum that often lacks diverse perspectives.

Then no, you aren’t doing very good at all.

shrug it should come as no great surprise to you that I’m not doing it for your approval, or BPC’s.

I don’t think Trump reads The Dope.

And whose approval are you seeking, pray tell?

It may surprise you that people on the left of the political spectrum don’t always agree on everything (unlike conservatives who line up like lemmings to parrot whatever talking point was recently fed to them).

So it is your position that the other side of the debate that is lacking from this forum is wrong wrong wrong?

It’s my position that the evidence in favor of Bone’s “so” rule is piling up like cars on an icy highway.

Yep, it is a wreck alright. But as pointed before, that it attracts more viewers does not means that a point is more accurate.

So you’re saying you’re bad at making clear what your point is?