Then I’m sure you would support mandatory jail time for those who supply the jobs they’re coming for, right?
No, they wouldn’t be safe from crime. Most criminals aren’t illegal immigrants, so the Americans you’re clutching pearls over would have pretty much the same chance of encountering a criminal.
Weird you’re not worried about smallpox and leprosy. Trump said foreigners carry those diseases after all, and would he lie?
This “low level crime” costs taxpayers billions of dollars each year. It allows widespread disrespect for the law and causes additional crimes, but, hey, it gives Democrats a bunch of extra votes, so I guess it is worth it.
My problem isn’t with immigrants vs. guns it’s with the assertion that the nation’s opioid crisis is connected to people walking across the border with heroin. The opioid crisis isn’t because of Hondurans walking across with one balloon of smack at a time. A wall isn’t going to fix the opioid crisis.
If congress NEEDS TO ACT to create this ham-fisted fix to the problem of drugs and the dozens of people who are killed by illegal immigrants each year (with a gun!), and the President is willing to throw $5.7 billion dollars at it, then why isn’t anyone willing to throw $5.7 billion dollars at the issue of children being mowed down in schools? Even if it’s ham-fisted.
I mean, imagine if it were your child.
And yet, for some strange reason, it keeps happening.
This is the biggest load of bullshit on Earth. When I go hiking in Coronado Memorial, I can stand on a mountaintop and see mile after mile of border fence. (Dare we call it a wall?). The border patrol agents roam the hills, automated cameras watch the border, and I can’t even drive to Tucson without passing through a checkpoint. And right now, as I type this, I am looking out my window at the FREAKING BLIMP the local Army post keeps for spotting migrants. There is a literal blimp hanging over my house for the exact purpose of spotting illegal migrants, and here you are telling me that our immigration laws are “not enforced.”
So forgive me if I am not impressed if some cop in California has more important crimes to investigate, given the tremendous amount of border security and federal agencies dedicated to enforcing that specific thing.
“Not being enforced.” What a crock of shit.
Guns are killing our children and illegal immigrants are not. I don’t know why it is so hard for you to grasp that concept. A man can shoot almost a thousand people in Las Vegas and Republicans absolutely do not give a shit, but they’re willing to shut down the government over the problem of illegal immigration. Holy fuck, that is stupid.
If I had $5 billion and a choice between building a wall and literally setting it on fire, I would be hard-pressed to tell you which idea is less useful. Either way, there are more important things to spend money on than chasing this nonsense.
It turns out that his speech was fairly successful when it comes to what it really was-a campaign speech for his reelection campaign. Before the speech emails went out on to all his supporter on the mailing list insisting that he needed their monetary support immediately for The Wall, and immediately after the speech another mailing went out to those who didn’t contribute saying that The President was willing to extend the deadline a few hours “for you”(actually, everyone that didn’t give for the cause)…but the funny part about this is that the money didn’t go to The Wall-it went to his reelection campaign. Link, and link.
That’s right. He conned the networks into running a campaign speech live.
You know, that almost sounds like an icy dose of reality has begun to take hold, a frisson of insight that the jig is nearly up. He did seem a bit defeated this evening, I was pleased to note. His approval rating is dropping fast and nothing he’s doing makes any difference.
Gave me a smile to read. Thanks, Chefguy.
Extra votes would be possible only if they are legal or legalize their stay, the ones involved in crimes usually do not get that.
And in reality, just like prohibition, the real disrespect for the law is because many Americans do see the huge injustices that many immigrants are facing just because an elected troglodyte wants to make injustice prevail for DACA recipients or immigrants asking for asylum.
I’m glad you posted this, as it explains why I asked Ditka whether he’d sent his five dollars yet. Did Trump’s [DEL]suckers[/DEL] supporters fall for it and send a bunch of money?
He bounced around between ~40 and ~44 for pretty much all of 2018. His average approval rating today is 42.4.
Do you think the networks should have been told it was a campaign speech?
I follow 538, where it’s 41.1. Down more than a full point since December 20th.
And remember, Mueller has only just begun in earnest. 
Which lines from the speech did you feel were particularly campaign-y?
I don’t think he’s appreciably off the average for 2018, but you go ahead and believe whatever you like.
Kind of you to offer your unsought permission. 
Umm, no. Immigrants are MORE law abiding that people born here.
And there isnt one recorded instance of a illegal voting in a national election.
Did you see post #66?
Since the end of 2018, his disapproval is almost up 2 points, according to your link. Thats: 1) A pretty big shift away from Trump taking place in just over a week, 2) Not fully factoring in the latest on the shut-down, and 3) Not factoring what’s coming with Mueller.
Do you really think his primetime nothingburger tonight stanched his bleeding? Do you think the Dems controlling the House committee gavels stanches the bleeding? Do you really feel good about his numbers being 11.5 underwater (and climbing)? Do you really feel good about Trump being underwater in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and Georgia?
But, hey, if you feel *good *about his numbers, don’t let us disturb your sleep at night.
Yes. It did not appear to answer my question.
Wow. :eek: