# Trump Splashback Hits Bush **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023 "2016-10-09T01:48:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/81 "2016-10-10T18:30:19Z")
[Well, we have Ben Carson’s take on the issue.](http://viralliberty.com/ben-carson-just-exposed-truth-trump-tape-issues-dire-warning-american-voters/) > [@](#): > > “Those of us who do not want to see America fundamentally devolve into something worse must be wise enough to recognize the scheme that is being played out here. We must demand not only that the issues be discussed but also that we make our decisions based on issues and not on personalities or decade old statements and behavior by Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. > > The political elites and their loyal media are desperate because they are seeing the large enthusiastic crowds for Donald Trump and the meager crowds for Hillary Clinton, and they know that there will be a huge enthusiasm gap on election day. > > The question is; will the political elites of both parties succeed in continuing there reign of fiscal irresponsibility and military weakness or will the people understand what is going on and will they be wise enough to thwart those efforts?” ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/82 "2016-10-10T19:58:03Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > apples and Waco, TX Topic is “Fruits that get baked”! Moral: It’s always possible to find a bizarre false equivalence if you stretch far enough. Even if you’re trying to equate sexually assaulting women with having a consensual affair. But, of course, it wasn’t the affair. It was the perjury after. Because we all know that, in our system of laws, perjury is a far more serious offense than sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/83 "2016-10-10T22:40:59Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > To be fair, I suspect some of the banter in women’s locker rooms is pretty shocking and eyebrow raising too. 😃 > > Dirty and raunchy talk is not uncommon in this world. That’s why it’s considered private. You suspect wrong. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/84 "2016-10-11T01:16:55Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You suspect wrong. :dubious: This has been my experience too. ---
**Author:** ![RenaissanceMan203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/94ad74/32.png) [@RenaissanceMan203](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RenaissanceMan203)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/85 "2016-10-11T01:46:02Z")
A bunch of ginned up fake outrage over nothing by a bunch of faux ivory tower fruits. Keep grasping your pearls in feigned shock, ladies. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/86 "2016-10-11T02:33:47Z")
> [@RenaissanceMan203](#): > > A bunch of ginned up fake outrage over nothing by a bunch of faux ivory tower fruits. Keep grasping your pearls in feigned shock, ladies. **RenaissanceMan203** this post is completely out of line for this forum. You cannot insult any poster on this board outside the Pit. You are new here, so re-read the rules and user agreement or your time here will be short. And yes, I am an Ivory Tower Denizen and I do get to decide what is appropriate and what crosses the line in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/87 "2016-10-11T02:40:37Z")
The percentage of Americans voting for Trump in a month 40% The percentage of Americans admitting to have voted for Trump in a few years 4% ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/88 "2016-10-11T02:58:33Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Get some women together and their conversation will be just as raunchy. Woman checking in…Just no. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/89 "2016-10-11T03:19:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Well, we have Ben Carson’s take on the issue.](http://viralliberty.com/ben-carson-just-exposed-truth-trump-tape-issues-dire-warning-american-voters/) > [@](#): > > The political elites and their loyal media are desperate because they are seeing the large enthusiastic crowds for Donald Trump and the meager crowds for Hillary Clinton Huh, I guess we have to thank Ben Carson for demonstrating to all that being a brilliant surgeon does not mean that an expert on a subject is a genius on everything else. Clinton Ohio Rally: > **[Hillary Clinton draws record crowd at Ohio State rally](https://www.cleveland.com/open/2016/10/hillary_clinton_draws_record_c.html)** > > Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, pulling away from GOP rival Donald Trump, drew an estimated 18,500 people to a Monday evening rally at Ohio State University - considered to be her largest campaign rally to date. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/90 "2016-10-11T04:10:30Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > Woman checking in…Just no. The funny part is the assumption, which is **still** a male fantasy. It’s like those douchebags on Facebook who post pictures of He-Man all ripped and say ‘tell us more about how woman’s bodies are objectified’. THAT is how men want to look, so yes, women with massive tits are still objectification. So listen up, assholes. Pick a comic directly consumed my women that chronically puts the male gender in an objectified stereotype and then a discussion can begin. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/91 "2016-10-11T04:25:11Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’d hope that a leaked private conversation over 10 years ago wouldn’t cost Bush his current job. > > The person that should be found and fired is whoever kept this outtake and leaked it now. > > Why was an out take with a young and relatively unknown reporter and a media personality/businessman kept all these years? This was a hatchet job on Trump and Bush is getting hit too. > > The content on the out take is vulgar and disgusting. Typical locker room banter that every guy has heard since junior high. Most of it is stupid boasting and one–upmanship. Machismo at its worst. It’s not intended for a wide audience. If is this such "Typical locker room banter " why is Trump losing support from other men? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/92 "2016-10-11T04:46:00Z")
Considering Grandma Bush’s disgust at Trump, Billy should really find a good excuse to avoid Thanksgiving dinner with the family. Perhaps a friend in need of moving some bricks from the basement? ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/93 "2016-10-11T06:29:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Sex talk is very common. Bad language is very common. I served on a sub, and both were almost constant subjects. > > Sexual assault is not very commonly bragged about. It really is different. > [@leftfield6](#): > > I played sports in high school, and then played 4 years of Division 1 baseball in college. Lots of long bus rides, lots of idle time with “guys being guys”. Sure some pretty lewd things were said, no doubt. But if anyone had casually discussed raping or sexually assaulting a woman, they would have been shunned at best, and, I’d like to think, reported to the coach. > > Real men don’t talk like this, narcissistic assholes do. If you’ve been hanging around men who talk this way, you need to find a better class of friends. It IS NOT the norm. I work in a very male-dominated office. I’m the only woman in my department; there are only two other women in the shop area. We’ve all heard extremely graphic “locker room” banter. On the one occasion when I heard this banter drift into a discussion of sexual assault in the form of one guy discussing his “right” to essentially commit marital rape, the guy in question was quickly shut down by his coworkers, who expressed disbelief and disgust. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/94 "2016-10-11T14:22:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Cite? > > In exact terms I’d agree they’re not typical, but in terms of crassness, vulgarity and so-called misogyny (i.e., sexual banter about the desirability/physical attributes of certain women and/or one’s success with them) they’re exceedingly typical of the things I’ve been hearing guys say since I was in my early teens. > > Upon what basis do you make this presumption? You already answered your own question. Meny make crass, vulgar, and sexist comments, but they don’t typically brag about assault. And my cite are the tons and tons of people who say that such comments are not typical locker room talk, some of which have posted here. My presumption is that this wouldn’t be such a big deal if it really were all that typical. It wouldn’t be treated like some new revelation about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/95 "2016-10-11T14:26:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Meny make crass, vulgar, and sexist comments Was this supposed to be a portmanteau of “many men”? If so, brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/96 "2016-10-11T14:49:46Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Considering Grandma Bush’s disgust at Trump, Billy should really find a good excuse to avoid Thanksgiving dinner with the family Auntie Barbara, not Grandma. Billy Bush is George HW Bush’s nephew. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/97 "2016-10-11T16:00:41Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > By the way, even Trump’s surrogates aren’t denying that the comments describe sexual assault. Such innocence and naïveté, **Richard**. 😉 Of course they are now denying it! Here’s Kellyanne Conway being quoted by Vox: "Trump’s Campaign Manager: please stop calling Trump’s ‘pussy’ comments ‘sexual assault’ " She says since Trump didn’t actually use the term "sexual assault, it’s unfair to characterise it that way. > **[Trump's campaign manager: please stop calling Trump's "pussy" comments...](https://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223722/trump-debate-kellyanne-conway-tapes-pussy-sexual-assault?0p19G=c)** > > Kellyanne Conway said Trump “did not say the word ‘sexual assault.’” Okay then. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/98 "2016-10-11T16:39:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Such innocence and naïveté, **Richard**. 😉 > > Of course they are now denying it! > > Here’s Kellyanne Conway being quoted by Vox: "Trump’s Campaign Manager: please stop calling Trump’s ‘pussy’ comments ‘sexual assault’ " > > She says since Trump didn’t actually use the term "sexual assault, it’s unfair to characterise it that way. > > [Trump's campaign manager: please stop calling Trump's "pussy" comments "sexual assault" | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223722/trump-debate-kellyanne-conway-tapes-pussy-sexual-assault?0p19G=c) I guess it was just a matter of time, but I’m surprised it took them so long. Why wouldn’t Giuliani deny that it was sexual assault on the Sunday shows when asked that question, if they were going to go there eventually anyway? The Answer is [Trump’s Razor](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-scythian-slice-of-trump-s-razor), of course. But still. SMDH. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/99 "2016-10-11T17:44:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Such innocence and naïveté, **Richard**. 😉 > > Of course they are now denying it! > > Here’s Kellyanne Conway being quoted by Vox: "Trump’s Campaign Manager: please stop calling Trump’s ‘pussy’ comments ‘sexual assault’ " > > She says since Trump didn’t actually use the term "sexual assault, it’s unfair to characterise it that way. > > [Trump's campaign manager: please stop calling Trump's "pussy" comments "sexual assault" | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13223722/trump-debate-kellyanne-conway-tapes-pussy-sexual-assault?0p19G=c) i wonder how she would react to some random guy walking up to her, grabbing her genitals amd forcibly kissing her. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023/100 "2016-10-11T17:59:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ll admit this isn’t quite the same thing, but any of you guys wanna hear Obama speaking of [ribs and pussy](https://youtu.be/WKYmiWiNqOw)? Typical misogynist male. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-splashback-hits-bush/768023.md?page=6)