# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/421 "2018-04-12T22:44:26Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Time has a fantastic cover this week. Too bad that Time can’t force him to use that in place of the fake cover he displayed in his properties.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/422 "2018-04-12T23:20:57Z")
if the story is true it would be really funny if the maid he was banging was Hispanic. ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/423 "2018-04-13T00:50:43Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s believed by those who have a need to believe that Trump is somehow, in some way, worthy of something akin to “respect.” I have to say I do admire Trump’s ability to cold call a beautiful woman and ask her out. Of course, it helps to be a celebrity. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/424 "2018-04-13T02:54:21Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I have seen the bolded posted elsewhere, usually by Trump admirers. Is this belief widespread? And is it accurate or relevant to anything? For various monetary definitions of “prowess”, sure. ---
**Author:** ![pdhenry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pdhenry/32/5561_2.png) [@pdhenry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pdhenry)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/425 "2018-04-13T04:46:45Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > if the story is true it would be really funny if the maid he was banging was Hispanic. Some are good people… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/426 "2018-04-13T05:28:02Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > I have to say I do admire Trump’s ability to cold call a beautiful woman and ask her out. Of course, it helps to be a celebrity. It’s amazing the lengths that Trump supporters will go to in order to defend him. You admire a womanizing piece of human excrement. Congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/427 "2018-04-13T12:54:31Z")
Used with permission from a friend on another board: “Be pretty damned impressive if Trump’s firstborn is an illegitimate child with an undocumented immigrant he’s refused to acknowledge for 40 years.” ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/428 "2018-04-13T14:02:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > It’s amazing the lengths that Trump supporters will go to in order to defend him. > > You admire a womanizing piece of human excrement. Congratulations. You and many other people should do some introspection about your blind hatred for Trump. He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. As a guy who has asked many women out, I know that picking up that phone and making that call can be nerve wracking. On a simply human level, I admire Trump’s fearless ability to make that call. That’s it. Not everything has to be politics. Many conservative commentators have noted and admired Bill Clinton’s innate ability to connect with people. Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/429 "2018-04-13T14:15:09Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. I consider Kim Jong-un to be a despicable human being and have found nothing good in him. I must be completely deranged. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/430 "2018-04-13T14:23:55Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > You and many other people should do some introspection about your blind hatred for Trump. He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. > > As a guy who has asked many women out, I know that picking up that phone and making that call can be nerve wracking. On a simply human level, I admire Trump’s fearless ability to make that call. That’s it. Not everything has to be politics. Many conservative commentators have noted and admired Bill Clinton’s innate ability to connect with people. Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. If all he did was pick up the phone and ask women out, his lawyer wouldn’t be so busy writing checks. He admits to and is proud of coming up to women he doesn’t know, kissing them and/or grabbing their genitals. He bought a teenage beauty pageant just so he could walk in on minors in various states of undress. He is an absolute scum without the slightest hint of humanity. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/431 "2018-04-13T15:13:04Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > You and many other people should do some introspection about your blind hatred for Trump. \*\*He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. \*\* > > As a guy who has asked many women out, I know that picking up that phone and making that call can be nerve wracking. On a simply human level, I admire Trump’s fearless ability to make that call. That’s it. Not everything has to be politics. Many conservative commentators have noted and admired Bill Clinton’s innate ability to connect with people. Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. Like fucking hell I would. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/432 "2018-04-13T15:27:26Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. Then we must be defending other Democrats who are also accused of pussy grabbing etc., right? Like … well, then there’s … IOW No. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/433 "2018-04-13T15:30:56Z")
Trump asked Comey to prove there was no Russian hooker piss tape. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/434 "2018-04-13T15:42:27Z")
[Michael Cohen recorded a lot of his meetings, people are “worried” the Feds seized them.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trumps-allies-worry-that-federal-investigators-may-have-seized-recordings-made-by-his-attorney/2018/04/12/16d6345a-3e89-11e8-912d-16c9e9b37800_story.html) Because of course he did. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/435 "2018-04-13T16:33:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Michael Cohen recorded a lot of his meetings, people are “worried” the Feds seized them.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trumps-allies-worry-that-federal-investigators-may-have-seized-recordings-made-by-his-attorney/2018/04/12/16d6345a-3e89-11e8-912d-16c9e9b37800_story.html) > > Because of course he did. Maybe Cohen has a secretary named Rosemary, who accidentally erased some of the tapes. 😃 The “Dumb Watergate” parallels continue. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/436 "2018-04-13T16:40:31Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > … Nonetheless, Trump has a young child and he could certainly be protecting him as well as other family members from his indiscretions. > > The big issue is whether the payment to Daniel’s was an in-kind campaign contribution. Michael Cohen’s closeness to Trump is really the determining factor. Has he done this before? … It is not _impossible_ that the motivation was protect Barron from hearing (more) about his father’s well-known proclivities and desire for women who remind him in some way of his daughter. Improbable but not impossible. I believe you are correct. If Cohen can prove that he has on multiple past occasions paid sizable sums out of his own pocket to women that Trump has had … encounters with … while married in order to keep them quiet about it, dating to well before this election cycle, that would undermine the conclusion that it was clearly motivated by campaign considerations. He could just be that sort of friend. So far Cohen has not claimed such a pattern, let alone provided evidence of such. Maybe the confiscated records will show that and exonerate him? > [@LAZombie](#): > > You and many other people should do some introspection about your blind hatred for Trump. He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. …Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. I will join in the chorus here. No. And I do not “hate” Trump. I do however think that he is devoid of anything to admire or respect. His behaviors are pretty much the antithesis of what I respect and admire. I cannot blind myself to all he does that is so detestable. I’ve looked long and hard to find something to not detest in him. It is not there. (No, a rich and powerful behaving like he can grab a pretty young thing by the pussy, or “cold call” her, maybe over and over again at all hours of the night, maybe breathing heavily as he does, does not hit that “admire” switch.) I can completely get compartmentalizing his immorality and lack of ethics in his private sexual and family life from his other actions. I could put those in a box labelled “none of my business” if he was otherwise working towards actually making us as a society greater and nobler and making the world a better place for his having been here. I’ve known plenty of people in real life who are otherwise ethical moral and intelligent in almost all ways … except when it comes to sex where they put ethics on a shelf and are as stupid as they can be. Trump being the latter does not bother me much. The fact that he is otherwise a stupid incurious anti-intellectual small-minded blowhard who fosters hate, intolerance, and who is making the country and the world a worse place for his having been here is what bothers me. Is there _something_ decent in him? I cannot say it is impossible. Maybe in private he has a wicked sense of humor? All I can say there being something decent about him is not in evidence. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/437 "2018-04-13T17:06:53Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I will join in the chorus here. No. And I do not “hate” Trump. I do however think that he is devoid of anything to admire or respect. His behaviors are pretty much the antithesis of what I respect and admire. I cannot blind myself to all he does that is so detestable. I’ve looked long and hard to find something to not detest in him. It is not there. (No, a rich and powerful behaving like he can grab a pretty young thing by the pussy, or “cold call” her, maybe over and over again at all hours of the night, maybe breathing heavily as he does, does not hit that “admire” switch.) > > I can completely get compartmentalizing his immorality and lack of ethics in his private sexual and family life from his other actions. I could put those in a box labelled “none of my business” if he was otherwise working towards actually making us as a society greater and nobler and making the world a better place for his having been here. I’ve known plenty of people in real life who are otherwise ethical moral and intelligent in almost all ways … except when it comes to sex where they put ethics on a shelf and are as stupid as they can be. Trump being the latter does not bother me much. The fact that he is otherwise a stupid incurious anti-intellectual small-minded blowhard who fosters hate, intolerance, and who is making the country and the world a worse place for his having been here is what bothers me. > > Is there _something_ decent in him? I cannot say it is impossible. Maybe in private he has a wicked sense of humor? All I can say there being something decent about him is not in evidence. This pretty well states my view, as well. And, for the record, I’m a liberal, I nearly always vote Democratic, but, in answer to LAZombie, if Trump, exactly as he is now, had run as a Democrat, and been elected as a Democrat, I would have been every bit as disgusted by his presidency as I am now. Regardless of his currently-stated party affiliation, he’s reprehensible, and his behavior while in office has been horrid. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/438 "2018-04-13T17:07:41Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Maybe Cohen has a secretary named Rosemary, who accidentally erased some of the tapes. 😃 The “Dumb Watergate” parallels continue. Maybe the maid was named Rosemary and the baby of that dalliance … ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/439 "2018-04-13T17:12:16Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > You and many other people should do some introspection about your blind hatred for Trump. He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. > > As a guy who has asked many women out, I know that picking up that phone and making that call can be nerve wracking. On a simply human level, I admire Trump’s fearless ability to make that call. That’s it. Not everything has to be politics. Many conservative commentators have noted and admired Bill Clinton’s innate ability to connect with people. Finding something good in someone you despise is a sign you aren’t completely deranged. The hell I would. I literally think he is the worst excuse for a human being alive. Two years before you joined I was beating that drum. So spare me your projection. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/440 "2018-04-13T17:17:07Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > He was a Democrat for most his life, and you would be defending him if a D was in front of his name in all likelihood. What about us foreigners who aren’t bound to your petty R’s and D’s? I mean, I think he is a piece of shit and I’m no Democrat, do you think maybe there is a reason for that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=23)