# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/41 "2018-03-08T00:10:48Z")
On the other hand, Ivana does not like Marla for obvious reasons, he left Ivana for Marla and cheated with Marla. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/42 "2018-03-08T01:48:16Z")
Seems Cohen has a secret cease and desist order now against Stormy. And has requested untold liquid damages against her thinking this will stop her. This isn’t going to bring down the trump, but sooner or later, little cracks become big ones, especially when you hammer on them. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/43 "2018-03-08T02:01:12Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems Cohen has a secret cease and desist order now against Stormy. And has requested untold liquid damages against her thinking this will stop her. Tom Steyer should stop wasting his money on impeachment ads and back all these women’s lawsuits against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![pdhenry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pdhenry/32/5561_2.png) [@pdhenry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pdhenry)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/44 "2018-03-08T02:28:06Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Seems like if the contract is void, so should the check. Looks to me like she wants some publicity to advance her career. I’m the last person to defend Orange McGroper, but it seems to me that her cashing the check indicates her acceptance of the contract, unsigned as it may have been. If I was her, I’d have kept my mouth shut out of shame for having carnal knowledge of that creep, but she apparently lacks shame as much as he does. The contract includes a million dollar penalty\*\*\* per disclosure\*\*\* on her part, so perhaps forfeiting the $130,000 would be a cheap way out for her. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/45 "2018-03-08T02:29:00Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Tom Steyer should stop wasting his money on impeachment ads and back all these women’s lawsuits against Trump. Agreed. Tom Steyer helps no one for a premature call for impeachment. Adds zero to the conversation and simply plays right into the Trump base persecution complex ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/46 "2018-03-08T02:32:03Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > This isn’t going to bring down the trump, but sooner or later, little cracks become big ones, especially when you hammer on them. Ummmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/47 "2018-03-08T03:53:20Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems Cohen has a secret cease and desist order now against Stormy. It’s not exactly secret. Have a look. [http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z\_Creative/arbitration%20TRO.pdf](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_Creative/arbitration%20TRO.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/48 "2018-03-08T08:41:14Z")
Why can this case be tried/ arbitraged in two days while all other lawsuits take months? Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/49 "2018-03-08T11:35:02Z")
some reports say she can talk all she wants if she gives back the money. Does that make sense legally? ---
**Author:** ![pdhenry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pdhenry/32/5561_2.png) [@pdhenry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pdhenry)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/50 "2018-03-08T12:56:13Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > some reports say she can talk all she wants if she gives back the money. Does that make sense legally? Only if the contract is ruled null and void, as it has higher penalties than that for her talking. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/51 "2018-03-08T13:06:53Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Plus, Trump’s MO has always been to get what he wants up front, with the promise that he’ll fulfill his side of the agreement later. It would be ironic to see him fall prey to the same tactic. The schadenfreude is strong in this one (me too). This is looking kind of like one of those cases where the prosecutors are stymied because presenting their case means disclosing classified information. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/52 "2018-03-08T13:26:10Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems Cohen has a secret cease and desist order now against Stormy. And has requested untold liquid damages against her thinking this will stop her. > This isn’t going to bring down the trump, but sooner or later, little cracks become big ones, especially when you hammer on them. I mean, Stephen Cohen, in his mind, has a reputation to protect. Stormy Daniels doesn’t. I mean, what, is Stephen going to release to the world the damning information that she has sex for money? She _advertises_ that fact. She may have drug problems? Uhhhh… OK. Given the modern depiction of prostitutes in the media, we _expect_ them to have drug problems, so all saying (if he will) that she has a coke problem is going to do is have people ask the President “Did you sniff coke off her ass or her tits?” ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/53 "2018-03-08T15:18:47Z")
On BBC news website, a headline near the top read “Trump wins order to gag porn actress.” I was a little surprised that made it past the editors. It appears that they have not changed it from “gag” to “silence.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/54 "2018-03-08T15:38:39Z")
On the BBC, I expect that the word choice was at the editors’ recommendation. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/55 "2018-03-08T15:39:47Z")
How can these million-dollar penalties be imposed on Miss Stormy Daniels? Trump will never collect a million dollars from her. What happens now? Does he own her for the rest of his life? Does she keep paying his heirs until she dies? Does she go on welfare to avoid having to pay him anything? Why would a judge allow such a ridiculous clause in an arbitration agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/56 "2018-03-08T15:42:48Z")
Perhaps one of the great writers here could rework the Allman Brothers song Stormy Monday? It seems to fit the situation. > **[The Allman Brothers Band - Stormy Monday Lyrics | AZLyrics.com](https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/allmanbrothersband/stormymonday.html)** > > The Allman Brothers Band "Stormy Monday": They call it Stormy Monday But Tuesday's just as bad. They call it Stormy Monday But Tuesday's just... ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/57 "2018-03-08T16:09:50Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > On BBC news website, a headline near the top read “Trump wins order to gag porn actress.” She ought to be OK. Given her profession, I’m sure she has plenty of practice in suppressing the gag reflex. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/58 "2018-03-08T16:12:36Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > It appears that they have not changed it from “gag” to “silence.” Correction: “they have now changed it” ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/59 "2018-03-08T16:30:35Z")
Trump is finding out his policy of financially bullying people only works if the people he’s bullying have something to lose. Stormy really has nothing to lose compared to what she can gain. I expect more money to change hands and this to quietly disappear, or possibly, Stormy to play herself in the upcoming “Sinking the SS Trump” documentary. Win/win for her. ---
**Author:** ![pdhenry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pdhenry/32/5561_2.png) [@pdhenry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pdhenry)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/60 "2018-03-08T16:35:52Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > How can these million-dollar penalties be imposed on Miss Stormy Daniels? Trump will never collect a million dollars from her. What happens now? Does he own her for the rest of his life? Does she keep paying his heirs until she dies? Does she go on welfare to avoid having to pay him anything? Why would a judge allow such a ridiculous clause in an arbitration agreement? Trump’s legal strategy seems to be usually centered on the threat of crippling litigation that he doesn’t necessarily need to have a reasonable chance of winning. Since he has more money to throw and the apparent advantage of a signed contract agreeing to the penalty, a prudent individual might choose to avoid litigation against deep pockets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=4)