# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/601 "2018-04-19T16:18:53Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I believe that the major point in both suits was the claim that Cohen had met with Russian intelligence folks in Prague to discuss covering up the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. Cohen has flatly denied being in Prague at the time in question. I think it is pretty safe to assume that the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York has irrefutable evidence that Cohen was in Prague and had that meeting. > > Plus what JohnT said. I think this is correct. If it is true, why does Cohen continue to deny it? He knows he went there and he should be worried about if there is any proof that he was. Is he stupid? If it was me, I’d do one of two things: own up to it or shut up about it. Denying what you suspect may later be proven to be true seems batshit nuts. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/602 "2018-04-19T16:30:49Z")
Says who? (Sorry, but couldn’t resist). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/603 "2018-04-19T19:09:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Says who? Everyone. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/604 "2018-04-19T19:41:09Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Everyone. [goombah] Which ones? [/goombah] ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/605 "2018-04-19T20:12:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [goombah] Which ones? [/goombah] All of them. (love the goombah tags) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/606 "2018-04-19T23:52:04Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > What could possibly be left for her to reveal? The salacious details of Trump’s sweaty, futile coital floppings don’t matter, his need and willingness to pay people to not talk about what he’s done is what matters. Well, it might all matter if there’s video. Trump’s self-image very much includes ‘I am a stud’ and ‘I guarantee you there’s no problem’ about the size of his penis. Video or stills that would graphically contradict these claims would chip away at the degree to which his fans love to identify with him. If he’s a tiny-dicked futile flopper, and the evidence is right in everyone’s face, day in and day out—that’s going to be a problem. Because _image is everything_. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/607 "2018-04-20T05:10:26Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I believe that the major point in both suits was the claim that Cohen had met with Russian intelligence folks in Prague to discuss covering up the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. Cohen has flatly denied being in Prague at the time in question. I think it is pretty safe to assume that the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York has irrefutable evidence that Cohen was in Prague and had that meeting. > > Plus what JohnT said. I don’t think it’s necessarily that damning. He has much bigger problems now and it’s not a good idea for him to be testifying about any of that stuff (regardless of what happened), so he’s probably going to have to plead the fifth in any civil cases, and there’s no point in suing someone just so you can plead the fifth when you get to court. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/608 "2018-04-20T05:16:01Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > …If he’s a tiny-dicked futile flopper, and the evidence is right in everyone’s face, day in and day out—that’s going to be a problem. Because _image is everything_. Was it Kissinger said “A pitiful helpless giant”? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/609 "2018-04-20T16:29:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Was it Kissinger said “A pitiful helpless giant”? Close; it was Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/610 "2018-04-20T17:13:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Well, it might all matter if there’s video. Trump’s self-image very much includes ‘I am a stud’ and ‘I guarantee you there’s no problem’ about the size of his penis. > > Video or stills that would graphically contradict these claims would chip away at the degree to which his fans love to identify with him. If he’s a tiny-dicked futile flopper, and the evidence is right in everyone’s face, day in and day out—that’s going to be a problem. Because _image is everything_. If his hands are in the photo, his dick will look enormous. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/611 "2018-04-20T17:25:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > If his hands are in the photo, his dick will look enormous. Well played! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/612 "2018-04-26T16:46:34Z")
Trump admitted Cohen worked for him on the Stormy case [https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/donald-trump-michael-cohen-fox-and-friends/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics/donald-trump-michael-cohen-fox-and-friends/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/613 "2018-04-26T18:18:08Z")
Michael Avenatti [tweeted](https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/989567719132614657): > [@](#): > > Most interesting fact from today’s hearing IMO - FBI imaged 16 (by my count) cell phones and blackberries seized in MC raids. Usually not a good sign when the target appears to have saved old phones and there are that many phones recovered. BIGLY bad…for many. When you’re doing criminal shit, it’s usually best not to keep evidence around. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/614 "2018-04-26T18:37:43Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > When you’re doing criminal shit, it’s usually best not to keep evidence around. Unless you’re keeping it to potentially blackmail somebody with it. Somebody who doesn’t pay his bills, for instance … ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/615 "2018-04-26T20:36:05Z")
it’s almost as if he wants to be impeached. He probably figures no way are there are 67 votes to remove him in the Senate. Then he could launch of victory tour. But on the other hand I guess he just cannot keep from saying really bad stuff . ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/616 "2018-04-26T20:43:02Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > it’s almost as if he wants to be impeached. He probably figures no way are there are 67 votes to remove him in the Senate. Then he could launch of victory tour. > > But on the other hand I guess he just cannot keep from saying really bad stuff . More the latter. He can’t keep himself from doing anything he feels like doing, he’s the emperor of lack of impulse control. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/617 "2018-04-26T20:52:21Z")
When you run your own business for a long time in most cases you can say anything you want , at least to your own employees. But he’s also been saying bad stuff in public for decades too. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/618 "2018-04-28T22:54:11Z")
Things aren’t looking good for Cohen. Pretty fucking grim, actually. Why? [Check out this weeks National Enquirer cover](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/this-national-enquirer-cover-about-michael-cohen-is-amazing/). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/619 "2018-04-28T23:00:37Z")
I take that as prep work to besmirch whatever Cohen offers up on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/620 "2018-04-28T23:08:59Z")
Exactly. That bus he is being thrown under is just about to do the job. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=32)