# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/701 "2018-05-08T18:44:30Z")
[Nymag article](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-with-trump-not-broidy.html) lays out the case for why that _other_ $1.6m payment that Cohn negotiated to cover up for an abortion was likely made on behalf of Trump as well, and _not_ RNC finance chair Elliott Broidy. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/702 "2018-05-08T20:15:57Z")
he might lose a few voters if he paid for an abortion. But like he said , he could murder someone in broad daylight and it doesn’t matter. Remember John Edwards got his friend to claim he fathered the misstress baby when Edwards was the real dad. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/703 "2018-05-08T21:34:40Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Remember John Edwards got his friend to claim he fathered the misstress baby when Edwards was the real dad. Yup, and when Edwards’ infidelities (and efforts to conceal them) finally came to light, his political career died. I think you’re right; I fear that most of Trump’s supporters will continue to either (a) believe that all of this is a lie, or (b) hypocritically insist that it doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/704 "2018-05-08T21:53:48Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Yup, and when Edwards’ infidelities (and efforts to conceal them) finally came to light, his political career died. I think you’re right; I fear that most of Trump’s supporters will continue to either (a) believe that all of this is a lie, or (b) hypocritically insist that it doesn’t matter. Similarly, Schneiderman was an up-and-coming Democrat just 24 hours ago. He is now toxic and will likely never have a political career again. I hold Anthony Weiner up as an example of what happens to Democrats who try to get back into the fold after a horrible sex scandal. Republicans, on the other hand, nominate their scumbags to Senate or even POTUS. [Don’t tell me a damn thing about Bill Clinton. He hasn’t run for elected office since the Lewinsky affair came to light.] ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/705 "2018-05-08T22:25:10Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > he might lose a few voters if he paid for an abortion. But like he said , he could murder someone in broad daylight and it doesn’t matter. > > Remember John Edwards got his friend to claim he fathered the misstress baby when Edwards was the real dad. If the abortion was performed on fifth avenue then a conservative could literally say that “Trump killed a baby on fifth Avenue and I still support him!” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/706 "2018-05-08T22:35:27Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Yup, and when Edwards’ infidelities (and efforts to conceal them) finally came to light, his political career died. I think you’re right; I fear that most of Trump’s supporters will continue to either (a) believe that all of this is a lie, or (b) hypocritically insist that it doesn’t matter. Edwards’ political career died when he did poorly in the presidential primary. He dropped out of the race in January, which tells us how good he thought his chances were early on. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/707 "2018-05-16T18:25:00Z")
Trump disclosed he paid back Cohen at least $100k last year > **[Trump discloses payment to Cohen in financial form | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/trump-financial-disclosure-report/index.html)** > > President Donald Trump acknowledged that he has repaid his lawyer Michael Cohen for expenses Cohen occurred during the 2016 presidential election ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/708 "2018-05-16T18:56:05Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Trump disclosed he paid back Cohen at least $100k last year > > [https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/trump-financial-disclosure-report/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/trump-financial-disclosure-report/index.html) And the Office of Government Ethics (OGE) sent a letter to Rosenstein saying, in part: “OGE has concluded that the information related to the payment made by Mr. Cohen is required to be reported and that the information provided meets the disclosure requirement for a reportable liability.” The former OGE director, Walter Shaub, [says](https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/996807561402863616): > [@](#): > > This is tantamount to a criminal referral. OGE has effectively reported the president to DOJ for potentially committing a crime. AIUI, the argument is that Trump committed a crime by not reporting this last year. Or something. Campaign finance laws are kind of a mystery to me. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/709 "2018-05-16T19:09:32Z")
I suppose this is as good of a thread to ask as any… Hypothetical. Suppose Trump was paying x amount of dollars to Cohen every month to be used as Cohen saw fit to take care of Trumpian legal oppsies. Trump rights it off as a business expense. But, that money can’t be written off as a business expense if Cohen uses it to pay hush money/bribe or perform illegal acts. So, if [sub]hypothetically[/sub] Trump did not know what the money was used for, would he still be on the hook for tax evasion if he rights it off as a ‘business’ expense? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/710 "2018-06-06T19:43:34Z")
Stormy’s previous lawyer got some 'splainin to do. Apparently, her own was [colluding with Cohen and Hannity](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/stormy-daniels-suit-my-old-lawyer-was-puppet-trump-cohen-n880476). ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/711 "2018-06-06T21:16:06Z")
her lawyer is on TV more than ads that say “ask your doctor about …” ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/712 "2018-06-07T20:06:12Z")
Trump is not happy he can’t watch Stormy type videos in the White House. [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-cant-the-president-watch-porn-in-the-white-house-w521215](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-cant-the-president-watch-porn-in-the-white-house-w521215) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/713 "2018-06-07T20:07:58Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Trump is not happy he can’t watch Stormy type videos in the White House. > > [Why Can't the President Watch Porn in the White House?](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-cant-the-president-watch-porn-in-the-white-house-w521215) There is only so much you can be expected to sacrifice for your country. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/714 "2018-06-07T20:16:16Z")
he doesn’t have to use the WH network to watch porn. He can do what a lot of people do when they don’t want to be found , use a burner phone. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/715 "2018-06-07T21:56:05Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > he doesn’t have to use the WH network to watch porn. He can do what a lot of people do when they don’t want to be found , use a burner phone. 🙂 You’re assuming he even knows what that is. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/716 "2018-07-12T05:22:25Z")
Stormy has just been placed under arrest in Ohio. CNBC: [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-columbus-ohio-while-performing-avenatti.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-columbus-ohio-while-performing-avenatti.html) Her attorney tweets, “She was arrested for allegedly allowing a customer to touch her while on stage in a non sexual manner! Are you kidding me? They are devoting law enforcement resources to sting operations for this? There has to be higher priorities!!! #SetUp #Basta” > ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/717 "2018-07-12T17:10:23Z")
Charges dropped. > ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/718 "2018-07-12T17:21:12Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Stormy has just been placed under arrest in Ohio. > > CNBC: [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-columbus-ohio-while-performing-avenatti.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-columbus-ohio-while-performing-avenatti.html) I love it. > [@](#): > > Police said Daniels was busted after allegedly touching three different undercover vice police officers during her performance at the Sirens club, in violation of state law barring anyone who is not a family member from touching a dancer who is either nude or semi-nude. S-o-o-o I guess it’s okay for a 45 year-old father to touch his naked eighteen year-old daughter so long as she is on a stage? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/719 "2018-07-12T18:11:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Charges dropped. > > [https://twitter.com/AP/status/1017452522943012864?s=19](https://twitter.com/AP/status/1017452522943012864?s=19) More details here. Stormy appears to have [del]gotten off on[/del] had charges dismissed based upon a technicality. The law applies to regular performers and not guest performers. Stormy was a guest performer at Sirens Gentleman’s Club of Columbus, Ohio. So there wasn’t probable cause to proceed with the case. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/720 "2018-07-12T18:30:53Z")
Can someone explain the charges better? If the law says you can’t touch a stripper, how’d SHE get arrested for it? She’s the stripper and she touched other people who I presume were not strippers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=37)