# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/741 "2018-07-14T01:50:50Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > If cop movies have taught me anything, it’s that _every_ investigation requires a cop to go into a strip club. Those places are the hubs of the underworld. Heck, it’s also where you go to find the insurance executive you need to question, or subpoena the minister who’s there “undercover”. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/742 "2018-07-14T20:11:13Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > I think that’s only records of citations by the sheriff’s office. The sheriff’s office would normally only deal with things happening in an area without its own police department. > > [Today’s article](http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180712/charges-dropped-stormy-daniels-takes-stage-at-another-columbus-strip-club) lists some numbers for the entire county and city: That’s interesting. Those numbers aren’t exactly astronomical though. A full investigation would focus on the particular police department involved, as opposed to county-wide data. Here’s another data point: Ms. Daniel’s lawyer Michael Avenatti found that the police officers involved posted a lot of pro-Trump image memes on their Facebook page. Click through for crowdsourced muckraking. [https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1018118505093160960](https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1018118505093160960) Could this be a case of retaliatory arrest, as in Lozman v. City of Riviera Beach? > **[Supreme Court Decides Lozman v. City of Riviera Beach, Florida | Publications...](https://www.faegredrinker.com/en/insights/publications/2018/6/supreme-court-decides-lozman-v-city-of-riviera-beach-florida)** [Lozman v. City of Riviera Beach - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Lozman_v._City_of_Riviera_Beach) “Does the existence of probable cause defeat a First Amendment retaliatory-arrest claim as a matter of law?” Last month, the Supremes voted with an 8-1 majority to punt the issue. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/743 "2018-07-20T15:59:03Z")
> **[Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model...](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html)** > > The F.B.I. seized the recording in a raid. Its existence recording highlights the potential legal and political danger that Mr. Cohen represents to the president. Michael Cohen taped Trump talking about secret payments to a Playboy model. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/744 "2018-07-20T16:13:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html) > > Michael Cohen taped Trump talking about secret payments to a Playboy model. > [@](#): > > Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, confirmed in a telephone conversation on Friday that Mr. Trump had discussed the payments with Mr. Cohen on the tape but said the payment was ultimately never made. He said the recording was less than two minutes and demonstrated that the president had done nothing wrong. > > “Nothing in that conversation suggests that he had any knowledge of it in advance,” Mr. Giuliani said, adding that Mr. Trump had directed Mr. Cohen that if he were to make a payment related to the woman, write a check, rather than sending cash, so it could be properly documented. > > “In the big scheme of things, it’s powerful exculpatory evidence,” Mr. Giuliani said. That’s some fine spin there, Mr. Giuliani. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/745 "2018-07-20T16:39:46Z")
The recording was less than two minutes? Well golly, that’s got to prove…something. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/746 "2018-07-20T19:09:17Z")
Report says BBC running a story tomorrow about Trump hitting on teenage girls when he was in his 40s. That explains his Roy Moore endorsement. > ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/747 "2018-07-21T00:16:10Z")
Saw Michael Avenatti in TV today. He’s actually considering representing Michael Cohen. Now that would be a killer combination, since it looks like Cohen’s going to sing like a bird. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/748 "2018-07-21T02:54:12Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Report says BBC running a story tomorrow about Trump hitting on teenage girls when he was in his 40s. That explains his Roy Moore endorsement. > > [https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1020338109169274880](https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1020338109169274880) Didn’t they just run an article about him hitting on teenagers a week ago? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/749 "2018-07-21T03:16:21Z")
It’s probably a 10-part series. He’s been a serial predator for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/750 "2018-07-21T06:42:25Z")
Surely Avenatti can’t represent Cohen ethically? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/751 "2018-07-21T13:09:12Z")
Well from what I recall, the word was that Cohen had a compulsive habit of recording his conversations with Trump, so this is probably one of many that will surface. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/752 "2018-07-21T13:12:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Well from what I recall, the word was that **Cohen had a compulsive habit of recording his conversations with Trump** , so this is probably one of many that will surface. Shows he’s not a _total_ idiot. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/753 "2018-07-21T13:13:40Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > That’s some fine spin there, Mr. Giuliani. Whether he realized it or not, Giuliani just authenticated the recording - and any others that Cohen may have in the future. I know: “How could he not acknowledge something so obvious and easily proved?” Yes, but how could Trump and his administration not acknowledge everything else he’s blatantly lied about so far? Gaslighting and claiming that the recordings are bogus are his only way out. Giuliani just admitted that the tapes are real. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/754 "2018-07-21T13:16:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Shows he’s not a _total_ idiot. He probably did it so he could use it as blackmail in case Trump tried to stiff him. Cohen probably saw what Trump used to do to his contractors and used his recordings as his insurance policy. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/755 "2018-07-21T16:24:19Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He probably did it so he could use it as blackmail in case Trump tried to stiff him. Cohen probably saw what Trump used to do to his contractors and used his recordings as his insurance policy. Good point. And with any luck, Cohen will sing like a canary. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/756 "2018-07-21T18:25:24Z")
Doesn’t Donald also record people? I can’t wait until those tapes come out. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/757 "2018-07-21T18:49:34Z")
> [@Donald Trump](#): > > Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/758 "2018-07-21T19:51:57Z")
I guess, come to think on it, I would be more surprised if Cohen hadn’t taken such precautions. It would mean someone who knows the kind of shit Il Douche is capable of finds him to be trustworthy and loyal. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/759 "2018-07-25T03:15:41Z")
Cohen’s attorney, Lanny Davis, appeared on Chris Cuomo’s CNN show this evening, and played the recording of the call between Cohen and Trump, in which they discussed the payment to Karen McDougal. > **[Exclusive: CNN obtains secret Trump-Cohen tape | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape/index.html)** > > Presidential candidate Donald Trump is heard on tape discussing with his attorney Michael Cohen how they would buy the rights to a Playboy model's story about an alleged affair Trump had with her years earlier, according to the audio recording of the... ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/760 "2018-07-25T11:57:48Z")
I’ll admit that I am not expert on the attractiveness of men, but I can’t help but wonder what on earth these women see in him. If I was a female, I would find him gross and would be unable to suppress my gag reflex long enough to service him. Is being rich (or at least appearing to be rich) enough to make women able to do things with such an unattractive, unintelligent, inarticulate, boorish piece of crap? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=39)