# Trump sued by Stormy Daniels over hush payment **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163 "2018-03-07T02:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/61 "2018-03-08T16:52:59Z")
I suspect that if Daniels put up a GoFundMe page to pay for her fines and legal expenses, in exchange for a promise of full disclosure, she’d be fully funded in hours. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/62 "2018-03-08T17:22:10Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I suspect that if Daniels put up a GoFundMe page to pay for her fines and legal expenses, in exchange for a promise of full disclosure, she’d be fully funded in hours. I’ll bet she could sell her little “rolodex” for way more than she’ll even need in this life. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/63 "2018-03-08T17:44:26Z")
CNN is reporting that Trump is pissed at his press secretary > [@](#): > > On Wednesday, Sanders told reporters that the arbitration was won “in the President’s favor.” The statement is an admission that the nondisclosure agreement exists, and that it directly involves the President. It is the first time the White House has admitted the President was involved in any way with Daniels. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/64 "2018-03-08T17:47:55Z")
Hmm. We know what happened when he got upset with his (former) Communications Director… ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/65 "2018-03-08T17:49:20Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Hmm. We know what happened when he got upset with his (former) Communications Director… Which one? There have been four of them in the past year. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/66 "2018-03-08T18:28:55Z")
Shockingly, it appears that not even SHS is a good enough liar for Dotard. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/67 "2018-03-08T18:34:15Z")
Can we bring back Crazy Sean Spicer? SNL could use some material. Heaven forbid that Kelly Ann is next in the liar’s pulpit. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/68 "2018-03-08T19:10:09Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Can we bring back Crazy Sean Spicer? SNL could use some material. Heaven forbid that Kelly Ann is next in the liar’s pulpit. Although I’ve long promoted the #LetHimMisspeak movement to bring back Spicey, Kate McKinnon has really mastered her portrayal of the Great KC Masterpiece Liar: [\*From just some dumb blueberry farm I’m gonna be “CONWAY!” Who says that lying’s not an art? And when they Google just a “K” My name’ll come up before Kanye! KELLYANNE CONWAY!\*]([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9ybImGwkU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9ybImGwkU)) With Conway back in the news for not only ethics issues but openly violating the Hatch Act, it is a perfect time for the Trump Administration to put her back in front and center just to prove that the swamp is being drained…right into the White House. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/69 "2018-03-08T20:46:19Z")
Daniels may have shared “Tangible Confidential Information” (possibly dick pics) with four others prior to signing the NDA. The lawsuit refers to four people she shared the information with in 2007, while the affair was ongoing. The four are: - Gina Rodriguez, a former porn actress who became an entertainment talent rep. - Keith Munyan, a photographer who has been involved in shooting some of Daniels’s calendars and other photo shoots. - Angel Ryan, unknown - Mike Moshey (spelling unclear), unknown. More at TPM: [Four Other People May Have the Trump Dick Pics (AKA “Certain Still Images”)! - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/four-other-people-may-have-the-trump-dick-pics-aka-certain-still-images) Does anyone know who Angel Ryan and Mike Moshey(Mosheuf?) are? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/70 "2018-03-08T20:51:07Z")
What else is Trump trying to hide with this? The story is already out, and the more he fights it, the more damage it does to him. For a normal human pol in a scandal, it would always be better off coming clean and getting it behind him. For him, it’s just about never conceding a thing no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/71 "2018-03-08T21:01:57Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Daniels may have shared “Tangible Confidential Information” (possibly dick pics) with four others prior to signing the NDA. The lawsuit refers to four people she shared the information with in 2007, while the affair was ongoing. The four are: > > - Gina Rodriguez, a former porn actress who became an entertainment talent rep. > - Keith Munyan, a photographer who has been involved in shooting some of Daniels’s calendars and other photo shoots. > - Angel Ryan, unknown > - Mike Moshey (spelling unclear), unknown. > > More at TPM: [Four Other People May Have the Trump Dick Pics (AKA “Certain Still Images”)! - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/four-other-people-may-have-the-trump-dick-pics-aka-certain-still-images) > > Does anyone know who Angel Ryan and Mike Moshey(Mosheuf?) are? That last name may be Mosney. This site ([Three Blockbusters in the Hush Contract – GO BLINDLY](https://gobling.wordpress.com/2018/03/08/three-blockbusters-in-the-hush-contract/)) thinks it might be Daniels’s ex-husband, whose professional name is Mike Moz. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/72 "2018-03-08T21:08:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > What else is Trump trying to hide with this? The story is already out, and the more he fights it, the more damage it does to him. For a normal human pol in a scandal, it would always be better off coming clean and getting it behind him. For him, it’s just about never conceding a thing no matter what. Well, in fairness, politicians of all stripes try to hide things (Clinton, Nixon, FDR, Harding), although you are right in that the hiding makes it worse, not better. I was always taken by a story about the Duke of Wellington, when he was part of the British Government (this was 1824, long past Waterloo) and he was subject to much the same thing, although in this case the ‘lady’ was represented by a pornographer instead of a lawyer (make your own jokes), threatening to ruin the Duke unless money was paid for the woman’s silence. Wellington replied with a letter with only four words in, but memorable ones: “Publish and be Damned” Wellington went on to be Prime Minister. And true badass. Politicians these days ain’t Wellington…but I think we’ve noticed that. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/73 "2018-03-08T22:02:51Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Which one? There have been four of them in the past year. Good point. 🙂 I was thinking of Hope “white lies” Hicks, who apparently got a similar reaming out by Himself the day before she was gone. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/74 "2018-03-08T22:29:36Z")
I came here to mention that it looks like Sarah Sanders may be next on the chopping block, but I see that **Procrustus** beat me to it. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Heaven forbid that Kelly Ann is next in the liar’s pulpit. That’s unlikely, or at least, it would be a crazy thing to do, so who knows with this bunch. Conway’s inability to control her mouth is second only to the Orange Peril himself. It’s interesting to speculate who on earth would want that job. Being a presidential press secretary would normally be a stepping stone to a distinguished career, but in this case it marks the person as being a mercenary opportunist of absolutely zero integrity. The only organizations that might hire one of Trump’s professional liars might be the Mafia or one of the health insurers. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/75 "2018-03-08T22:46:47Z")
> [@pdhenry](#): > > Trump’s legal strategy seems to be usually centered on the threat of crippling litigation that he doesn’t necessarily need to have a reasonable chance of winning. Since he has more money to throw and the apparent advantage of a signed contract agreeing to the penalty, a prudent individual might choose to avoid litigation against deep pockets. Yeah, but the beauty of this is that if Trump gets into court he is validating the existence of his participation in the agreement, which was written expressly to hide his identity. It’s legal judo. And it’s fucking gold! > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > What else is Trump trying to hide with this? The story is already out, and the more he fights it, the more damage it does to him. For a normal human pol in a scandal, it would always be better off coming clean and getting it behind him. For him, it’s just about never conceding a thing no matter what. I don’t think it’s the affair…it’s paying hush money right before an election, via an intermediary. That’s criminal territory. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/76 "2018-03-08T23:08:41Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > “Publish and be Damned” On the other hand there was also [Gary Hart’s 1988 response](https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/magazine/gary-hart-the-elusive-front-runner.html)to rumors he was cheating on his wife. > [@](#): > > Follow me around. I don’t care. I’m serious. If anybody wants to put a tail on me, go ahead. They’d be very bored. They did, [but they weren’t.](https://www.ranker.com/review/donna-rice/877626) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/77 "2018-03-08T23:11:55Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > \ The only organizations that might hire one of Trump’s professional liars might be the Mafia or one of the health insurers. You left out FOX ‘News’ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/78 "2018-03-08T23:15:07Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > \I don’t think it’s the affair…it’s paying hush money right before an election, via an intermediary. That’s criminal territory. With might be considered to be an undisclosed campaign contribution from his lawyer. That’s a big nono. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/79 "2018-03-08T23:18:14Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > You left out FOX ‘News’ Good heavens, yes, what an oversight! That’s where most of those types go, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163/80 "2018-03-08T23:22:34Z")
I think the NRA channels are hiring, too. (For an enlightening look at that, see this week’s (last Sunday’s) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-sued-by-stormy-daniels-over-hush-payment/810163.md?page=5)