# Trump Summons TV Figures for Private Meeting, and Lets Them Have It **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 22, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737 "2016-11-22T13:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/101 "2016-11-24T01:02:22Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > You don’t _have_ to, you know. Oh, baby, I WANT to. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/102 "2016-11-24T01:06:11Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > My bold. > > :eek: > > I shall now view all of Pearl’s past and future posts in a different light. Hah you didn’t get a clue in any other way? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/103 "2016-11-24T01:07:20Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Sean Hannity literally worked for the Trump campaign and somehow is considered a journalist. I mean, not by me, but that’s not because of his work on the Trump campaign. It’s because he’s not a journalist. Nobody regularly on television is a journalist. Journalism doesn’t happen on television. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/104 "2016-11-24T01:09:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Nobody regularly on television is a journalist. Journalism doesn’t happen on television. Not much anymore anyway, though you can see there are some who aspire. I’d put Anderson Cooper, Megyn Kelly, Charlie Rose, and Jim Lehrer into that category, but there’s nobody in the Murrow or Cronkite mold any more. (Granted, the last two are mostly if not entirely retired…) Murrow (and Friendly) would have raked the Trumpmeister over the coals, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/105 "2016-11-24T01:13:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Not speaking legally, but in my personal opinion the agreement was null and void when he stabbed them in the back by turning what was supposed to a “meeting of the minds”, a time to find common ground, into an attack on the Forth Estate. This isn’t the first time he has pulled a bait-and-switch on reporters: Remember when he had that “Gonna Talk About The Debate” press conference where he paraded out a bunch of women accusing the Clintons of various things? It would have been nice to see one or more of them walk out of the meeting as soon as it became clear that it wasn’t going to be a two-way exchange. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/106 "2016-11-24T01:30:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Would your answer change if you learned that Grant and Fred are Log Cabin Republicans, and the “wrong” candidate Grant is discussing is the Democrat? That makes no sense. The Republican is always the worst choice. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/107 "2016-11-24T01:49:17Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Personally, I just refer to him as the sexual predator. I will never say or write his name and I certainly will never refer to the p-word in full and of course never with the full p-word followed by his name, just as I never referred W or Reagan as the full p-word. I had no problem referring to both of them as pricks… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/108 "2016-11-24T02:11:39Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That makes no sense. The Republican is always the worst choice. Yes, yes, your decrees have worked out brilliantly, so doubling down on the strategy is obviously a wise plan. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/109 "2016-11-24T03:25:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Fred says, “I think our duty is to the truth.” > > Grant: “Yes, in an abstract sense. But this is happenstance, pure chance, that I recorded this flub. It’s not fundamental to the candidate.” > > Fred: “Neither is your candidate’s flub.” > > Grant: “True, but your candidate’s fundamentally wrong for the country. The greater truth is served by not hurting the chances of someone who could make a real difference. Think of the Supreme Court nominations alone!” > > Now you, **BobLibDem** arrive for dinner at their place, and they share their discussion with you. Do you side more with Fred, or with Grant? Perhaps it depends on whether or not Fred takes the money when he lands on Free Parking. The playing field is already terribly uneven. On one side you have journalists tying themselves in knots over whether it is OK to report on an off the record meeting, and on the other side you have “journalists” who repeatedly misrepresent themselves and take hidden video until they can catch someone saying something that they can edit into a scandal. Or perhaps not even bother with that and make up and spread juicy new stories that are entirely invented out of whole cloth. If this election has taught us anything its that nice guys finish last. Now I’m not sure that we shouldn’t still try to take the high road, we go high when they go low and all that. But to argue about Liberal hypocrisy in the area of journalistic ethics is a bit rich. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/110 "2016-11-24T05:24:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes, yes, your decrees have worked out brilliantly, so doubling down on the strategy is obviously a wise plan. Look, I feel guilty enough about the outcome already, but there’s a difference between issuing a decree and stating a fact. Post 106 was an example of the latter. :p:p:p ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/111 "2016-11-24T16:05:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > I’d put Anderson Cooper, Megyn Kelly, Charlie Rose, and Jim Lehrer into that category, but there’s nobody in the Murrow or Cronkite mold any more. (Granted, the last two are mostly if not entirely retired…) Hate to be the one to tell you, but the last two are more than retired.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/112 "2016-11-24T16:37:09Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Hate to be the one to tell you, but the last two are more than retired.🙂 I thought that, too… but I think he meant Rose and Lehrer. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/113 "2016-11-25T09:39:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Nobody regularly on television is a journalist. Journalism doesn’t happen on television. That’s some bullshit. It’s just that the journalism that regularly happens on TV is on at times most people watch something else/don’t watch TV or on channels that most people just don’t watch. Basically, it’s down to primetime and Sunday mornings. For example, Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes immediately come to mind as real deal journalists on TV. Obviously, they take the lead for a whole staff that does a lot of the work, but they are far, far from just talking heads reading the newsfeed off a teleprompter. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Smythe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f04885/32.png) [@Jane\_Smythe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Smythe)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/114 "2016-11-25T09:50:04Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > [From the NYT:](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/media/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it.html?_r=0) > > [From the _Washington Post:_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-defiant-trump-meets-the-tv-news-crowd-in-private--and-lets-them-have-it/2016/11/21/17a9e418-b040-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html) > > Stephen Bannon, Reince Priebus & Trump’s son-in-law attended the meeting. The guy is such a creep. It’s a very sorry thing for America. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Smythe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f04885/32.png) [@Jane\_Smythe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Smythe)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737/115 "2016-11-25T09:55:56Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Jokes aside… maybe \*\*\*an energized, truly hostile press is exactly what we need. > > * * * > > (Envisions NYT taking off fancy velvet gloves to reveal Andre-like fists of granite…) Yes, keep the press energized and hostile. That is what we need. He’s an idiot and thinks he can control them and bamboozle them the way he bamboozled the people who voted for him. Wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-summons-tv-figures-for-private-meeting-and-lets-them-have-it/772737.md?page=5)