# Trump supporters who need the ACA are in for a rude surprise **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 21, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301 "2016-12-21T15:08:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/161 "2017-01-17T16:23:49Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > For all the talk about policies and vision and connections and everything else, the race for President is really about a popularity contest (a contest the Donald technically lost, by the way). Had the Dems gone with Bernie, we’d be looking at a much different inauguration on Friday. One that artists and musicians and congressmen on all sides would be happy to show up for. Oh, nonsense. Had the Dems gone with Bernie, he would have lost in a landslide to Trump or any other Republican. You really think Republican voters would have gone for a self-proclaimed socialist? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/162 "2017-01-17T18:07:54Z")
Starting to think that the GOP is in such a no win situation here that they are going to end up blaming Democrats for initiating a law that can’t be unwound, but working with Democrats to improve it, and then take credit for the good things, and blame the bad things on the original law. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/163 "2017-01-17T18:32:44Z")
> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#): > > Oh, nonsense. Had the Dems gone with Bernie, he would have lost in a landslide to Trump or any other Republican. You really think Republican voters would have gone for a self-proclaimed socialist? By and large, the Republican voters didn’t elect Trump. It was disgruntled blue collar/Democratic/Independent voters who flipped to the Republican candidate. A lot of those people were very excited about Sanders, and somewhere between indifferent and hostile to Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/164 "2017-01-17T18:49:05Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Starting to think that the GOP is in such a no win situation here that they are going to end up blaming Democrats for initiating a law that can’t be unwound, but working with Democrats to improve it, and then take credit for the good things, and blame the bad things on the original law. All true, and fuck it. If we can get to a place where all of our people can go to a doctor when they need to and have access to one of the few truly wonderful advances in civilization, they can brag themselves blind, all day, all night, and I won’t give a rat’s. If that’s what it takes to con them into decent and humane policies, so be it! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/165 "2017-01-17T20:37:42Z")
> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#): > > Oh, nonsense. Had the Dems gone with Bernie, he would have lost in a landslide to Trump or any other Republican. You really think Republican voters would have gone for a self-proclaimed socialist? Ironically, they instead went for someone who is owned and operated by Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/166 "2017-01-17T20:42:01Z")
[GOP lawmakers unaware of Trump’s health care plan](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/congress-obamacare-trump/index.html) > [@](#): > > Republican lawmakers are in the dark about President-elect Donald Trump’s plan to repeal Obamacare and are frustrated he is emphasizing “insurance for everybody,” three senior GOP sources told CNN on Tuesday. Yeah… Something tells me that this is not going to be a smashing success. Trump seems to be the type of guy who thinks that when he’s boss, when he wants something done, he just shouts at his underlings enough, and they get it done. "make it bigger! The best! More gold! " > [@](#): > > Lawmakers want to focus on lowering costs, not expanding coverage, In other words, make rich people pay less, while taking coverage away from the poor people so they can simply die. Sounds like Republicans. > [@](#): > > Republican Sen. Roy Blunt told CNN that lawmakers are still learning how to interpret Trump’s statements. Which is polite speak for “We don’t know what the hell he’s talking about” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/167 "2017-01-17T20:54:12Z")
[HHS choice isn’t being kept in the loop on He Who Must Not Be Name’s healthcare plan so he won’t hae to talk about it in the confirmation hearings.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/16/politics/tom-price-obamacare-donald-trump-confirmation-hearing/) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/168 "2017-01-17T21:10:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > [GOP lawmakers unaware of Trump’s health care plan](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/congress-obamacare-trump/index.html) I’ve seen nothing to convince me that Trump is aware of Trump’s health care plan. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/169 "2017-01-17T22:10:43Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [HHS choice isn’t being kept in the loop on He Who Must Not Be Name’s healthcare plan so he won’t hae to talk about it in the confirmation hearings.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/16/politics/tom-price-obamacare-donald-trump-confirmation-hearing/) From the ACA repeal thread: > [@The Repeal of Obamacare/ACA: Step-bystep, Inch-by-inch](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-repeal-of-obamacare-aca-step-bystep-inch-by-inch/776146/290): > > New HHS Secretary Price not privy to Trump’s Obamacare replacement plan… that way he can’t be asked about it during confirmation hearings. :smack: > [Cite](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/16/politics/tom-price-obamacare-donald-trump-confirmation-hearing/index.html) > > Price got a plan, Trump got a plan, Congress gonna get a plan one of these days. _All God’s chillun got a plan…_ Let’s make sure the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is up to. Do these clowns have any idea how stupid this makes them look?? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/170 "2017-01-17T22:34:59Z")
> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#): > > Oh, nonsense. Had the Dems gone with Bernie, he would have lost in a landslide to Trump or any other Republican. You really think Republican voters would have gone for a self-proclaimed socialist? I’m not so sure. The public was in the mood for a major shakeup. Pretty much all my Republican friends on FB assured me I was being silly worrying about Trump. Never happen, they said. And an awful lot of my liberal friends were ecstatic about Bernie. This was a bizarro election. Trump’s advantage was appealing to the anti-PC crowd, but who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301/171 "2017-01-18T13:54:31Z")
There is no plan. There has never been a plan. At least not a cogent one supported by any kind of meaningful number of federal legislators. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-supporters-who-need-the-aca-are-in-for-a-rude-surprise/775301.md?page=8)