# Trump Tariffs Struck Down **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 29, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927 "2025-05-29T00:26:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/21 "2025-05-29T14:16:44Z")
FWIW, the NY Times now has it as the top story. I guess they take advice from the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/22 "2025-05-29T19:34:33Z")
While congress can certainly set tariff rates, I think that what they cannot do is delegate to Trump the right to set them. So if they passed a tariff law, the rates would be set in stone. Impeachment is not; it has to be followed by conviction. I wonder whether Mitch McTurtle now wishes he had tried to get a conviction in 2021. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/23 "2025-05-29T19:45:49Z")
And they’re back again. > **[Trump's tariffs temporarily reinstated as court considers White House appeal...](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2dekzjg6gzt?post=asset%3Aaf625744-8c61-44bd-968f-b8d85aefed57#post)** > > The White House had previously threatened to take the case to the Supreme Court by Friday if its appeal was not granted. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/24 "2025-05-29T22:49:14Z")
If the tariffs do get permanently struck down, Trump will blame the judiciary (and potentially the Supreme Court) for any any future economic turbulence and use it to justify a bigger push for greater executive power. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/25 "2025-05-29T22:57:25Z")
Well, we’ll just have to burn that bridge if we get to it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/26 "2025-05-29T23:28:15Z")
And Biden, of course. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/27 "2025-05-29T23:30:09Z")
Who is “we”? Importers? If so, I say “You should”. Fat chance of ever seeing a dime. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/28 "2025-05-29T23:37:04Z")
Given the unpopularity of tariffs, I’m not sure all the Rs would back Trump. They have to face re-election while Trump does not. For now, they can hide behind the idea that the president can do what he wants and they have no power of EOs. Putting them on the record with a vote favoring tariffs might change their thought process (or what passes for one). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/29 "2025-05-30T01:09:48Z")
Trump has a helluva “truth” screed about the US Court of International Trade and in that vomiting of words, he again says other countries are giving us trillions through tariffs: > [@](#): > > They always must do what’s right for the Country! In this case, it is only because of my successful use of Tariffs that many Trillions of Dollars have already begun pouring into the U.S.A. from other Countries, money that, without these Tariffs, we would not be able to get. Where are these trillions coming from and where are they going? When will the right tire of his constant lying? I’m not linking to his bullshit “truth”. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/30 "2025-05-30T01:31:47Z")
Also, if “trillions” have already poured in, shouldn’t the US be debt free in a couple more weeks? I think everyone would be cheering the tariffs if it were remotely true. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/31 "2025-05-30T01:35:18Z")
Does anyone think that maybe, Trump will appeal this “in two weeks”? In some ways, this is a best-case scenario for him: He gets to claim credit for the rebound, AND also gets to blame the lack of tariffs on those evil courts. > [@Jegpeg](#): > > He has the congress republicans in his pocket so can he not just get congress to impose the tariffs? Does it require more than 50% to approve? How long would it take to go through? The point isn’t whatever policy oozes through Trump’s brain at any given moment. The point is that Trump does whatever he does unilaterally. Republicans want a dictator. Whatever it is he happens to dictate is irrelevant. If Congress did something for him, that wouldn’t be him dictating, so it’s not what he wants. ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/32 "2025-05-30T08:20:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The point isn’t whatever policy oozes through Trump’s brain at any given moment. The point is that Trump does whatever he does unilaterally. That is what I meant by “He might be unlikely to because he it is accepting that he can not do anything he likes” ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/33 "2025-06-12T10:47:02Z")
Tariffs are back on. In two weeks. > **[U.S. Futures Drop As Trump Says He’ll Set Unilateral Tariffs In 2 Weeks](https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/06/12/us-futures-drop-as-trump-says-hell-send-out-take-it-or-leave-it-tariff-deals-in-2-weeks/)** > > Trump said he plans to send letters to U.S. trading partners over the next two weeks offering them unilateral tariff deals, and they can choose to “take it or leave it.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/34 "2025-06-12T13:42:42Z")
Hey Trump, STOP destroying everyones future, OK? My retirement accounts haven’t the first clue what to do and are pretty much a very bouncy happy fun ball. They where doing quite well with predictable returns. Now, you may as well throw a dart in the dark. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/35 "2025-06-12T14:49:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In two weeks. Isn’t this Trumpspeak for “never”? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/36 "2025-06-12T15:20:36Z")
TACO Time. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/37 "2025-08-29T22:19:38Z")
[Most Trump tariffs are not legal, US appeals court rules](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/most-trump-tariffs-are-not-legal-us-appeals-court-rules-2025-08-29/) > NEW YORK, Aug 29 (Reuters) - A divided U.S. appeals court ruled on Friday that most of Donald Trump’s tariffs are illegal, undercutting the Republican president’s use of the levies as a key international economic policy tool. > > The court allowed the tariffs to remain in place through October 14 to give the Trump administration a chance to file an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/38 "2025-08-29T23:28:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Remember that in that scene, Ben Stein was talking about the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. (He also talks about the Laffer Curve.) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/39 "2025-08-30T00:00:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Most Trump tariffs are not legal, US appeals court rules](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/most-trump-tariffs-are-not-legal-us-appeals-court-rules-2025-08-29/) > > > NEW YORK, Aug 29 (Reuters) - A divided U.S. appeals court ruled on Friday that most of Donald Trump’s tariffs are illegal, undercutting the Republican president’s use of the levies as a key international economic policy tool. > > > > The court allowed the tariffs to remain in place through October 14 to give the Trump administration a chance to file an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court. It’s a [7 - 4 decision](https://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/opinions-orders/25-1812.OPINION.8-29-2025_2566151.pdf) from a court with [four GOP judges/](https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit#Active_judges). If I understand correctly, two of the four dissenters are Obama appointees. So the Republicans on the court split 2 -2. By itself, this sounds hopeful. But I expect that there will be much more of a partisan split on SCOTUS, and that SCOTUS Republicans are more pro-Trump than those on other courts. So that 7-4 split does not give me a good feeling. According to the Constitution, “Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises.” Unfortunately, as explained in the decision, there is legal precedent to ignore that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tariffs-struck-down/1018927/40 "2025-08-30T08:43:18Z")
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