# Trump tells Congreswomen go back where you came from **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068 "2019-07-14T15:45:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/201 "2019-07-16T22:42:25Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The four women who are the topic of this conversation who were told to go back to their countries are all legal. Three aren’t even immigrants. Seems like you are mistaken. And the one immigrant has been a citizen longer than Trump’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/202 "2019-07-16T22:54:43Z")
> [@Les\_Wizerables](#): > > It obviously anywhere near the most egregious or hypocritical things about Trump’s new “if you don’t like it go back where you came from” rhetoric, but it’s absurd to hear it from someone whose campaign slogan was “Make America Great Again” in 2016 and will be “Keep America Great” in 2020. > > If America wasn’t great prior to January 2017, why didn’t Trump and his supporters leave? If it will no longer be great if Trump loses in 2020, will they leave then? Because it is _their_ country, and they are just taking it back. /s ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/203 "2019-07-16T22:56:23Z")
Bipartisan support for House resolution condemning Trump’s racists tweets. Yea: All Democrats 4 Republicans 1 Independent (Amash) Nay: Rest of Republicans ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/204 "2019-07-16T22:58:45Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I don’t think most people are opposed to immigrants, Agreed, most people are not republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/205 "2019-07-16T23:12:15Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I’ve noticed some news outlets finally giving up the euphemisms and calling Trump’s remarks “racist”. NPR did so in a tweet and in the most recent hourly news roundup I heard, and the St. Louis Post Dispatch did today as well. I’m glad some news operations are done with “racially charged” and other similar nonsense. I hope more follow suit soon. They were aided in that decision, probably, by the fact that “go back to your country” is so frequently uttered by those committing hate crimes, during the commission of those crimes. ProPublica has a discussion here:[5 Things You Need to Know About Hate Crimes in America — ProPublica](https://www.propublica.org/article/hate-endures-in-america-and-with-it-our-effort-to-document-the-damage) Search “hate crime” and “go back to your country” and many more examples will appear. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/206 "2019-07-16T23:22:39Z")
I don’t agree with Willliam Hurd’s politics, but he deserves some props for his vote on the resolution and for calling the president out as a racist and bigot on national TV. Granted, he’s black and he represents a racially diverse district. But not all the Republicans are douchdicks. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/207 "2019-07-16T23:37:53Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > But not all the Republicans are douchdicks. 4 out of 197 Republican congresspeople = 2%. So around 98% douchdicks. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/208 "2019-07-16T23:38:55Z")
Yes, that is very depressing. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/209 "2019-07-16T23:41:08Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I’ve noticed some news outlets finally giving up the euphemisms and calling Trump’s remarks “racist”. NPR did so in a tweet and in the most recent hourly news roundup I heard, and the St. Louis Post Dispatch did today as well. I’m glad some news operations are done with “racially charged” and other similar nonsense. I hope more follow suit soon. I noticed that, too (on NPR), and did a little happy dance. The word was used as matter-of-factly as if they’d said today was Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/210 "2019-07-16T23:49:12Z")
Judy Woodruff reported the remarks as racist on PBS. Which they were, of course. It ain’t like when Faux uses a buzzword, this is a simple statement of true fact. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/211 "2019-07-16T23:57:18Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > …You’re right. What I omitted completely changed the meaning of the accusation. Cortez wasn’t implying that Pelosi was racist. She was implying that she was racist _and_ patronising. …well it did change the meaning. And in a world where ‘the squad’ are being attacked and where members of the Trump administration are openly lying about things they have said I think its more important now than ever before to get the facts right. It added context. As did the other words that she said that you ommited. AOC has no hesitation calling racists racist. When asked by Anderson Cooper if she thought Trump as racist she flat out said “yes”, he was racist. So if she intended to call Pelosi racist she would have called her racist, not just “imply it.” You can see the context of the reply. They got the “cold shoulder” from the House Dems at the start, but accepted that as part of “how the game is played.” But from their point of view: Pelosi has not called out other elements of dissent in the same manner in which she calls out their dissent. And the dismissive tone that she took in the Maureen Dowd article exemplified this. ‘Newly-elected women of colour’ is about as accurate description of “the squad” as you can get. So no: I don’t think Cortez was implying Pelosi was racist. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/212 "2019-07-16T23:58:10Z")
Chicago Tribune, which has a quite conservative editorial board, is using this headline: **House Democrats, over strong GOP opposition, vote to condemn President Trump’s racist tweets** > **[House vote condemning Trump’s ‘go back’ tweets draws 4 GOP votes, 1 independent](https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-trump-censure-reaction-20190716-nrrgdiqmj5hufdzvjwjidmcueq-story.html)** > > In a remarkable political repudiation, the Democratic-led U.S. House voted to condemn Trump's "racist comments" against four congresswomen of color. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/213 "2019-07-17T00:03:28Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Oh for fuck’s sake! Anyone willing to vote out Trump will be willing to look at the actual candidates for Senate in their states and make a determination based on that. Josh Hawley and Roy Blunt were not sent to the Senate by the people of Missouri to provide some sort of counterbalance to Bernie Sanders and Diane Feinstein, nor was its last Democratic Senator elected to counterbalance Chuck Grassley. I don’t understand why you (and others in this thread) seem unwilling to consider the possibility that by making the ‘face of the Democratic Party’ that of its most progressive members, Trump may instill enough fear in enough voters to make them vote for Republican senators (even if they aren’t also going to support Trump). Here are a [NYT piece](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/opinion/trump-tweet-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-squad.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage) and [one from the CBC](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-racist-tweets-democrats-1.5213048) going in to the ploy in more detail. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/214 "2019-07-17T00:03:54Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Agreed, most people are not republicans. Here are the [numbers](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll/republican-support-for-trump-rises-after-racially-charged-tweets-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1UB2UD) to support you. _“Support for U.S. President Donald Trump increased slightly among Republicans after he lashed out on Twitter over the weekend in a racially charged attack on four minority Democratic congresswomen, a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll shows.”_ ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/215 "2019-07-17T00:11:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Here are the [numbers](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll/republican-support-for-trump-rises-after-racially-charged-tweets-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1UB2UD) to support you. > > _“Support for U.S. President Donald Trump increased slightly among Republicans after he lashed out on Twitter over the weekend in a racially charged attack on four minority Democratic congresswomen, a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll shows.”_ Good lord. That is the most depressing thing I’ve heard in many months — and that’s saying something. Wow. I … I need to sit down … Seriously, this is bad. Like, 1934 Germany bad. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/216 "2019-07-17T00:18:12Z")
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/217 "2019-07-17T14:15:25Z")
It occurs to me that this could be an opportunity for the gentlewomen to visit their respective ancestral homelands, report on conditions there and tie those conditions to specific policies of this administration. AOC would have a ball with this, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/218 "2019-07-17T14:26:04Z")
one of the 4 GOP who voted yes, Brooks, is not running for re-election next year. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/219 "2019-07-17T15:20:31Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Here are the [numbers](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll/republican-support-for-trump-rises-after-racially-charged-tweets-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1UB2UD) to support you. > > _“Support for U.S. President Donald Trump increased slightly among Republicans after he lashed out on Twitter over the weekend in a racially charged attack on four minority Democratic congresswomen, a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll shows.”_ Rob Reiner suggested on twitter this morning that, if there are Apprentice tapes with Donald uttering the N-word, Republicans should be working towards their release to help get the base _really_ fired up. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/220 "2019-07-17T15:23:15Z")
[USA Today/Ipsos Poll](https://twitter.com/JustSchmeltzer/status/1151495802734297089) \*Telling minority Americans to “go back where they came from” is a racist statement \* Total agree: 65% Total disagree: 18% Republican agree: 45% Republican disagree: 34% Independent agree: 67% Independent disagree: 12% [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=12)