# Trump tells Congreswomen go back where you came from **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068 "2019-07-14T15:45:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/241 "2019-07-18T02:17:08Z")
I have spent the last 37 years of my life studying this. Specifically: the conditions in the US and the likelihood of a revolution occurring. We still aren’t close, but we are on the path. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/242 "2019-07-18T02:21:32Z")
Kids in high school would be suspended for encouraging a chant that the president seems fine with. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/243 "2019-07-18T02:53:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Yeah but I think the Democratic party has lost support with it. I would guess that Americans have generally given up on the party system and the only reason that we continue to have Democrats and Republicans is because the machines in both parties have control over the system so that they can still tell which team the candidates are on. But the voters themselves are becoming increasingly unaffiliated, which is also why it’s a little harder to predict elections than it used to be. Through 2018, [both parties were losing support](https://i2.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/20180621_Party_ID_Gallup1.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1), but Republican support was lost much more rapidly. In my social circle, I’ve seen a lot of folks switch from unaffiliated to Democratic, but that’s not affected actual votes; rather, in a moment of despair, it was a symbolic action. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/244 "2019-07-18T03:09:46Z")
All I know is that the president went into the election of 2016 with poll numbers from about 38-43% and ended up with about 46% of the actual vote. For most of the election he trailed Hillary Clinton anywhere from 3-7% points. He lost the election by almost 3%. He won the electoral college, and he did so by a wider margin than George W Bush in both of his elections. It’s hard to defeat an incumbent president, particularly when the economy is going well. Most vote knowing (assuming) “He will be gone in 4 years anyway, so what’s the big rush if things are going well?” ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/245 "2019-07-18T04:09:15Z")
After coming back from the camps, Pence said, “Mr. President, you’re going to have to come up with something GOOD!” Mission accomplished! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/246 "2019-07-18T04:38:15Z")
Remember when Clinton called his supporters deplorable? Seems like she undersold it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/247 "2019-07-18T04:45:11Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Remember when Clinton called his supporters deplorable? Seems like she undersold it. Clinton wasn’t wrong about what she said; she was just the wrong pitch person, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/248 "2019-07-18T10:44:45Z")
Donald Trump ran on “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” If he didn’t think America was great why didn’t he leave? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/249 "2019-07-18T11:40:45Z")
Politicians love to run against bogeymen and Trump now has 4 of them. He will probably add more later. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/250 "2019-07-18T13:47:50Z")
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is a federal agency that administers and enforces civil rights laws against workplace discrimination. From their [website](https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm): > [@](#): > > **Harassment Based on National Origin** > > • Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/251 "2019-07-18T14:00:52Z")
The Dems need to let this whole flap DIE. Thump is loving it-- pouring gasoline on a fire is his specialty. He relishes a fight. The more they fight back and defend, the better he likes it. He has said this and demonstrated it over and over. But they won’t be able to resist the bait and they will likely continue to play right into his tiny hands. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/252 "2019-07-18T14:07:00Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is a federal agency that administers and enforces civil rights laws against workplace discrimination. > > From their [website](https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm): You forget: IOKIARDI. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/253 "2019-07-18T14:10:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The Dems need to let this whole flap DIE. Thump is loving it-- pouring gasoline on a fire is his specialty. He relishes a fight. The more they fight back and defend, the better he likes it. He has said this and demonstrated it over and over. But they won’t be able to resist the bait and they will likely continue to play right into his tiny hands. This is what I have been saying. Just disengage. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/254 "2019-07-18T14:36:45Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Remember when Clinton called his supporters deplorable? Seems like she undersold it. Actually, she said half of his supporters were deplorable. It seems that the reality is that the deplorable ones are an embarrassment to the other 1%. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/255 "2019-07-18T14:56:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The Dems need to let this whole flap DIE. Thump is loving it-- pouring gasoline on a fire is his specialty. He relishes a fight. The more they fight back and defend, the better he likes it. He has said this and demonstrated it over and over. But they won’t be able to resist the bait and they will likely continue to play right into his tiny hands. I’m afraid it’s probably already too late (“Send her back!”). But even if it never happened you can be sure that Trump & Friends would find another way - lotsa ways - to paint the face of the Democratic Party as anti-American, un-American, and wanting to ‘take away everything you and your forebearers fought for’. A face that like that of [Willie Horton](https://www.vox.com/2018/12/1/18121221/george-hw-bush-willie-horton-dog-whistle-politics). ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/256 "2019-07-18T15:10:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The Dems need to let this whole flap DIE. Thump is loving it-- pouring gasoline on a fire is his specialty. He relishes a fight. The more they fight back and defend, the better he likes it. He has said this and demonstrated it over and over. But they won’t be able to resist the bait and they will likely continue to play right into his tiny hands. Who are you, John McEnroe? Because _you cannot be serious!_ 🙂 But, er, seriously? Are you also against impeachment? The words were so vile, and the chants so horrific, that to disengage and let this die would be the single most effective thing the Democrats could do right now to demonstrate their utter and complete lack of backbone, their utter cowardice, and their total refusal to do what’s right. I was happy to see the House resolution, and that is a step in the right direction. They must do more. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/257 "2019-07-18T15:12:00Z")
The Dems need to go back to issues like wealth inequality, corruption, medicare, the looming loss of insurance coverage for millions thanks to a right wing activism. Not saying abandon social justice - keep fighting that fight. Just don’t forget about the issues that will be crucial to building a coalition, and by coalition, I mean getting somewhere north of 50 percent of the electorate. Ideally 55% but given recent electoral history, 50% or better would be an achievement. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/258 "2019-07-18T15:27:58Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Who are you, John McEnroe? Because _you cannot be serious!_ 🙂 > > But, er, seriously? Are you also against impeachment? The words were so vile, and the chants so horrific, that to disengage and let this die would be the single most effective thing the Democrats could do right now to demonstrate their utter and complete lack of backbone, their utter cowardice, and their total refusal to do what’s right. I was happy to see the House resolution, and that is a step in the right direction. They must do more. “Do more”? Right. :rolleyes: Yeah, the House resolution that was tabled? By continuing to engage with him on this topic, they are keeping it in the headlines. As vile as the insults were/are, they are not substantive. \*Cowardice \*and _lack of backbone_ don’t have anything to do with it. The Democrats need to be EFFECTIVE when they strike back. This is how to be effective: > [@asahi](#): > > The Dems need to go back to issues like wealth inequality, corruption, medicare, the looming loss of insurance coverage for millions thanks to a right wing activism. Not saying abandon social justice - keep fighting that fight. Just don’t forget about the issues that will be crucial to building a coalition, and by coalition, I mean getting somewhere north of 50 percent of the electorate. Ideally 55% but given recent electoral history, 50% or better would be an achievement. Don’t be baited by thump’s hateful tactics. Don’t be pulled off topic. Stick with issues. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/259 "2019-07-18T15:32:29Z")
And stop letting Trump get away with statements like “We’re going to making an announcement about that soon. In the next few weeks. You’ll see very important things we’re working on, things that are in line with what we’re doing all over government. Because I know this is a big issue; it’s very important and we’re going to solve it; there’ll be an announcement soon. Very big things coming, very soon.” But I do agree with that this is how the Democrats are perceived, and it’s because of their own inactions: > [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > the Democrats could do right now to demonstrate their utter and complete lack of backbone, their utter cowardice, and their total refusal to do what’s right. I was happy to see the House resolution, and that is a step in the right direction. They must do more. Democrats are weak, WEAK, weak. [Not one Democratic politician had the nerve to say what Stephen Colbert said](https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-stephen-colbert-go-to-hell-trump-20190716-v22ahibqxbgzzpphkq46o6bluy-story.html), for instance. > [@](#): > > Colbert’s bare-knuckled rebuke on the president’s comments followed a video clip of Trump attempting to justify his race-baiting screed. > > “Oh shut up,” Colbert said at the end of that clip, conceding his mother wouldn’t approve of that brusque directive. > > Riding a wave of thunderous applause, Colbert continued tearing into Trump before throwing his knockout punch. > > "If someone is leaving this country it should be you,” Colbert said. "And if you’re looking for a new home, might I suggest you go to hell?” ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/260 "2019-07-18T15:36:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Do more”? Right. :rolleyes: Yeah, the House resolution that was tabled? By continuing to engage with him on this topic, they are keeping it in the headlines. As vile as the insults were/are, they are not substantive. \*Cowardice \*and _lack of backbone_ don’t have anything to do with it. The Democrats need to be EFFECTIVE when they strike back. > > This is how to be effective:Don’t be baited by thump’s hateful tactics. Don’t be pulled off topic. Stick with issues. What’s with the :rolleyes:? :rolleyes: Yes, _more_. Hence my use of the phrase “step in the right direction”. Impeachment procedures, for starters. I don’t understand this tendency of some on the left to choose not to fight back. And you don’t really believe that presidential elections are won based on who can discuss the issues in depth the most, do you? Presidential elections are won based on emotions, not policy details. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=14)