# Trump tells Congreswomen go back where you came from **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068 "2019-07-14T15:45:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/101 "2019-07-15T18:20:41Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Probably the fact that he’s never heard of Tommy Boy and the guy gets no media. It’s certainly not that. Tom Malinowski is not the color of someone that you tell to go back to his country, even though he, unlike the darker folks Trump attacked, is actually from another country. You don’t have to be a racist to support Trump, but you sure do have to either forgive, or pretend to not see, a lot of racism in order to do it. ---
**Author:** ![CAH66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@CAH66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAH66)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/102 "2019-07-15T18:33:02Z")
Trump’s “strategy” seems to be just to keep the circus music playing long and loud whenever he can. I can’t credit him for any grand ideas beyond self-aggrandizing posts on the one hand and shit-slinging at his opponents on the other. This is the guy who made fun of a disabled reporter in front of TV cameras and got fucking\* grins and applause \*from his supporters. He doesn’t need genius with people like that on his side. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/103 "2019-07-15T18:59:41Z")
> [@CAH66](#): > > Trump’s “strategy” seems to be just to keep the circus music playing long and loud whenever he can. I can’t credit him for any grand ideas beyond self-aggrandizing posts on the one hand and shit-slinging at his opponents on the other. This is the guy who made fun of a disabled reporter in front of TV cameras and got fucking\* grins and applause \*from his supporters. He doesn’t need genius with people like that on his side. Absolutely. “how can Trump get so many votes when he’s an obvious and unrepentant racist?” Because many, many voters are unrepentant racists. (Sorry in advance for insulting any members of this board who feel that this targets them personally. It is not intended as such. And sorry if I am posting too many times for this thread. ) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/104 "2019-07-15T19:40:49Z")
A Republican has spoken out against Trump’s racist tweets! Rep. Will Hurd, the only African American member of his political party serving in the U.S. House of Representatives, [said this](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1150836229241548802): > [@Will Hurd](#): > > “I think those tweets are racist and xenophobic. They’re also inaccurate, right? The four women he’s referring to are actually citizens of the United States. Three of the four were born here.” On the other hand, Steve Mnuchin [says](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1150839966685192193): “I don’t find them racist.” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/105 "2019-07-15T19:44:08Z")
Steve Mnuchin, reality doesn’t depend on your idiotic opinion. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/106 "2019-07-15T20:22:56Z")
**[These Are the 29 Members of Congress Born Outside the United States](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/these-are-the-29-members-of-congress-born-outside-the-united-states/ar-AAEmfS1)** > [@](#): > > …There are 14 congressional members who were born outside of the United States, all of whom are Democrats, who became U.S. citizens. Thirteen of the 14 members of Congress born outside of the United States to non-American parents serve in the House of Representatives. Three of them are from Mexico – Salud Carbajal and Raul Ruiz (California) and Jesus Garcia (Illinois), and two are from India – Raja Krishnamoorthi (Illinois) and Pramila Jayapal (Washington). Other congressional members were born in the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Taiwan, Poland, Ecuador, Vietnam, and Guatemala. > > The lone senator born outside of the United States to parents who are not American is Mazie Hirono of Hawaii, who was born in Japan. There are four other senators who were born in other countries to American parents. > > Some members of the president’s cabinet were also born in foreign countries, including the Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao, who was born in Taiwan, and the Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie, who was born in Germany. It is also worth noting that the president’s wife Melania was born in Slovenia and is the first first lady born outside of the United States since Louisa Catherine Adams, the wife of John Quincy Adams, the sixth president… Complete list at the linky. The foreign-born Pubbies are from UK, West Germany, France, Canada (Ted Cruz). No \*shithole \*countries there, eh? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/107 "2019-07-15T20:48:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > See, now he’s even demanding that his targets apologize, which any sane person can tell is a deliberate attempt to troll them. But more than that, he knows it exerts pressure on the Democratic party. If Joe Biden thought he was going to run a safe, moderate campaign, he can throw that plan in the garbage can. He’ll have to up his ‘wokeness’ game by a lot. If Pelosi thought that she can just build coalitions with moderates and progressives working together in unison without having serious infighting over social justice, she can throw those plans in the garbage can as well. Trump is firing up the progressive radicals, and he knows it. And Biden and Pelosi are going to struggle to contain that energy. I’ve been talking about polarization for quite a long time now, long before this latest controversy started. Polarization is how Donald Trump re-takes the White House. It’s the only way he can win. You’re projecting an awful lot. I was looking at Twitter the last few days. Trump’s desperate attempt to distract from the Epstein case actually got several white moderates in Congress, Republican Justin Amash, & Hillary Clinton to defend Congress in general and ‘the Squad’ in particular. Trump may still have his bots & his racists on his side. But he’s unifying people against him, people who profoundly disagree with each other. He’s not dividing the Democrats. He’s making himself a target. The Democrats are a messy, fractious coalition for internal reasons going back decades. There are Democrats who hate Bernie Sanders and Democrats who hate Hillary Clinton, and the party, left to its own internal divisions, could be expected to crack up. But Trump as president, more than he was as candidate, is so awful that he can unify them against him. He’s a big giant gift to those who are capable of seeing that. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/108 "2019-07-15T21:12:07Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > On the other hand, Steve Mnuchin [says](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1150839966685192193): “I don’t find them racist.” But again, he’s focused on cryptocurrency. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/109 "2019-07-15T21:34:31Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > The Democrats are a messy, fractious coalition for internal reasons going back decades. There are Democrats who hate Bernie Sanders and Democrats who hate Hillary Clinton, and the party, left to its own internal divisions, could be expected to crack up. But Trump as president, more than he was as candidate, is so awful that he can unify them against him. He’s a big giant gift to those who are capable of seeing that. The last President to be defeated for reelection was George H.W. Bush. Bush won in 1988 against Michael Dukakis, who might have been an even worse campaigner than Hillary Clinton. Bush received 48.9 million votes and won 40 states. Flash forward to 1992. Bush received 39.1 million votes. Bill Clinton, the winner, and Ross Perot won all the rest. Bush ran into a rough patch in the economy in 1992, but his bigger problem, IMHO, was that he had promised “No new taxes” during his 1988 campaign and then had to go and raise taxes. Conservative voters rewarded this rare moment of fiscal sanity by not voting for Bush. To win in 2020 the Democrats need to a) run a candidate who’s at least marginally better than Hillary Clinton or Michael Dukakis, b) not go into the campaign like they did in 1968 (when the moderates won and the progressives pouted) and 1972 (when the progressives won and the moderates pouted), and c) convince a few voters who are fed up with Trump to simply stay home on election day. Having said all that, I’m still not 100% sure the Democratic Party can manage to pull off all three things in the same year. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/110 "2019-07-15T22:12:03Z")
[The President of the United States](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150874781744607232): > [@Donald Trump](#): > > IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY HERE, YOU CAN LEAVE! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/111 "2019-07-15T22:47:08Z")
Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/112 "2019-07-15T22:49:19Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [The President of the United States](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150874781744607232): Well, \*you \*seem mighty unhappy right now, sooooo… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/113 "2019-07-15T22:50:47Z")
What a dipshit motherfucker. If you’re not happy here you can leave… or, you know, I guess it’s possible that you could get elected to congress, too, and change the whole ballgame. Fuck Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/114 "2019-07-15T22:55:03Z")
This is his 2020 campaign strategy. ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/115 "2019-07-15T23:00:08Z")
And it will work like a charm. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/116 "2019-07-15T23:04:18Z")
While understandable, the actions of the four representatives may lose the Senate for the Democrats. Sure, many people in red states will (probably) be willing to vote out Trump. But will they risk turning the Senate over to those they see as not respecting America? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/117 "2019-07-15T23:20:12Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > While understandable, the actions of the four representatives may lose the Senate for the Democrats. > > Sure, many people in red states will (probably) be willing to vote out Trump. But will they risk turning the Senate over to those they see as not respecting America? …as the four representatives \*\*do \*\*respect America, and the only reason that people would think that they “don’t respect America” is the fact that the President of the United States is lying about them. if the Democrats “lose the Senate” the blame **does not** lie with the “actions of the four representatives”, but with the people who don’t vote for the Democrats and the President of the United States of America. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/118 "2019-07-15T23:28:24Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > . . . the only reason that people would think that they “don’t respect America” is the fact that the President of the United States is lying about them. I think they have serious doubts about ‘these women and those like them’ and their worries were there long before Trump spewed forth. He knows who he’s talking to. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/119 "2019-07-15T23:37:03Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > I think they have serious doubts about ‘these women and those like them’ and their worries were there long before Trump spewed forth. He knows who he’s talking to. …so you agree with me that the four representatives you were talking about actually do respect America, and that their actions won’t be responsible for losing the Senate for the Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/120 "2019-07-15T23:40:39Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …so you agree with me that the four representatives you were talking about actually do respect America, and that their actions won’t be responsible for losing the Senate for the Democrats? Do you think AOC implying that the top-ranked Democrat in the country is a racist is something that helps win the Senate? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=7)