# Trump tells Congreswomen go back where you came from **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068 "2019-07-14T15:45:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/121 "2019-07-15T23:41:11Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > While understandable, the actions of the four representatives may lose the Senate for the Democrats. > > Sure, many people in red states will (probably) be willing to vote out Trump. But will they risk turning the Senate over to those they see as not respecting America? How in the world are they not respecting America? If anything, they’re speaking up for Americans against tyrants like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/122 "2019-07-15T23:45:46Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Do you think AOC implying that the top-ranked Democrat in the country is a racist is something that helps win the Senate? …well thats a fucking loaded question. AOC didn’t imply the top-ranked Democrat in the country was a racist. I’m glad to clear that up for you. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/123 "2019-07-15T23:51:07Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > How in the world are they not respecting America? If anything, they’re speaking up for Americans against tyrants like Trump. Because for 40% of the country, America = Dear Leader Trump. The two are inseparable. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/124 "2019-07-15T23:56:17Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > . . . will they risk turning the Senate over to those they see as not respecting America? (emphasis added) > [@KarlGauss](#): > > I think they have serious doubts about ‘these women and those like them’ and their worries were there long before Trump spewed forth. He knows who he’s talking to. Note the ‘scare quote’ Clear? ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/125 "2019-07-15T23:56:24Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …well thats a fucking loaded question. > > AOC didn’t imply the top-ranked Democrat in the country was a racist. I’m glad to clear that up for you. “When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post. “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.” I realize the news cycle moves so fast these days, so there is her quote about the Speaker of the House being disrespectful to women of color in particular. I’m glad to clear that up for you. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/126 "2019-07-15T23:56:35Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Don’t they already do that, though? There is no conservative who hasn’t gotten this memo already. But the Republicans won’t win the election with just the committed conservative vote. If committed conservatives were a majority, Democrats would never win an election. To win a second term for Trump, the Republicans need to figure out a message they can sell to uncommitted voters. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/127 "2019-07-16T00:01:25Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > While understandable, the actions of the four representatives may lose the Senate for the Democrats. > > Sure, many people in red states will (probably) be willing to vote out Trump. But will they risk turning the Senate over to those they see as not respecting America? It’s not a given. If politicians attacking their opponents was a deal breaker in American politics, Trump himself never would have been elected. None of those representatives have said anything worse about Trump than what Trump has said about them. The only standard about who was right or wrong is which side you support. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/128 "2019-07-16T00:03:50Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > “When these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm’s distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood,” Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post. “But the persistent singling out . . . it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful . . . the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color.” > > I realize the news cycle moves so fast these days, so there is her quote about the Speaker of the House being disrespectful to women of color in particular. I’m glad to clear that up for you. …as I said: there is nothing in that quote that is either inaccurate, or implies that Pelosi is racist. I’m glad this is all cleared up now. ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/129 "2019-07-16T00:09:09Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …as I said: there is nothing in that quote that is either inaccurate, or implies that Pelosi is racist. I’m glad this is all cleared up now. Wow, well you have a very unique interpretation of that quote considering the breathless news coverage it got immediately before Trump capitalized on it with his ridiculous tweetstorm. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/130 "2019-07-16T00:10:59Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > This is his 2020 campaign strategy. This (overt racism)—in combination with massive vote-suppression. Because Trump can’t win with only his base (the white racists). He must also keep other whites, and all people of color, from voting—at least as much as possible. Polling places will be sparse in some areas; voting rolls will be purged of the ‘wrong’ people; ID will be required–and declared incorrect or fraudulent for ‘wrong’ voters, etc. etc. And before election day, Russian and other trolls will be working hard to tell non-racist whites and people of color that there’s no point in their going out to vote because: [ul] [li]their vote doesn’t matter[/li][li]all candidates are the same anyway[/li][li]Candidate \_\_\_\_\_ was robbed, sidelined by a corrupt DNC[/li][li]voting is uncool[/li][li]voting is for suckers[/li][li]the Dem candidate hates \_\_\_\_\_\_ people[/li][li]the Dem candidate is a tool of the corporations, so why bother[/li][/ul] …etc. etc. etc. The internet will be absolutely flooded with these and similar messages in the months leading up to November 2020. All of this—the suppression, the discouragement from voting—is Trump’s only path forward. Because he can’t win with the votes of white racists alone. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Then they are not “Bernie fans”. They are going to have to come to terms with the fact that for the next election - if they stay home - they are Trump supporters. Plain and simple. > > Any progressive that does not vote next election because the nominee is not “pure enough” to suit them, or has some imperfection that they do not like… Is a Trump Supporter. They might as well put on a MAGA hat and scream for minorities to be deported. > > Any Dem who bitches about flaws in the chosen Dem candidate should ask themselves why they are supporting a Republican mentally deficient fascist wanna-be who is about as suitable for the job as a drunken toddler with a loaded gun. > > Because this coming election is about getting as many D’s into office as humanly possible. Full stop. All of this. 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/131 "2019-07-16T00:13:56Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Wow, well you have a very unique interpretation of that quote considering the breathless news coverage it got immediately before Trump capitalized on it with his ridiculous tweetstorm. …the “breathless news coverage” is part of the problem. And there is absolutely nothing unique about my interpretation. Have I answered your question to your satisfaction? ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/132 "2019-07-16T00:30:05Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …the “breathless news coverage” is part of the problem. And there is absolutely nothing unique about my interpretation. Have I answered your question to your satisfaction? _yawn_ Yes, you’ve proven that you live and breathe identity politics, to the point that a problematic quote about the Speaker of the House disrespecting women of color doesn’t phase you at all. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/133 "2019-07-16T00:38:11Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > _yawn_ > Yes, you’ve proven that you live and breathe identity politics, to the point that a problematic quote about the Speaker of the House disrespecting women of color doesn’t phase you at all. Thanks. …LOL. You just played the “identity politics” card. Nothing better than a baseless ad hominem as a resolution to your loaded question. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/134 "2019-07-16T00:41:15Z")
Excerpts from _Washington Post_ article by conservative lawyer George Conway, husband of Kellyanne, entitled “Trump is a racist president”: > [@George Conway](#): > > "Naivete, resentment and outright racism, roiled in a toxic mix, have given us a racist president … Telling four non-white members of Congress — American citizens all, three natural-born — to ‘go back’ to the ‘countries’ they ‘originally came from’? That’s racist to the core. > … > “By virtue of his office, he speaks for the country. What’s at stake now is more important than judges or tax cuts or regulations or any policy issue of the day. What’s at stake are the nation’s ideals, its very soul.” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/135 "2019-07-16T00:45:22Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > …You don’t have to be a racist to support Trump… I absolutely disagree, racism is the core of their belief system. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/136 "2019-07-16T01:36:34Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > If you’re not happy here you can leave… or, you know, I guess it’s possible that you could get elected to congress, too, and change the whole ballgame. What exactly have those four accomplished since being elected? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/137 "2019-07-16T02:17:50Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …LOL. You just played the “identity politics” card. Nothing better than a baseless ad hominem as a resolution to your loaded question. Much like how AOC and her awful chief of staff play the race card against fellow democrats, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/138 "2019-07-16T02:43:25Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Much like how AOC and her awful chief of staff play the race card against fellow democrats, I guess. …they haven’t “played the race card.” This entire discussion is about race. The President of the United States is a big old racist. Why would AOC and her chief of staff not talk about race? However the House Democrats did try and play [“the woke card.”](https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats/status/1149856308801286148) Perhaps you should be telling them to stop playing “identity politics.” ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/139 "2019-07-16T02:52:07Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …they haven’t “played the race card.” This entire discussion is about race. The President of the United States is a big old racist. Why would AOC and her chief of staff not talk about race? > > However the House Democrats did try and play [“the woke card.”](https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats/status/1149856308801286148) Perhaps you should be telling them to stop playing “identity politics.” I would gladly tell them that. What a pathetic response to a pathetic tweet. Twitter has completely destroyed our public discourse, clearly. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068/140 "2019-07-16T03:06:25Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > I would gladly tell them that. What a pathetic response to a pathetic tweet. Twitter has completely destroyed our public discourse, clearly. _Trump_ has completely destroyed our public discourse, clearly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-tells-congreswomen-go-back-where-you-came-from/837068.md?page=8)