# Trump, the despicable school-yard bully

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701 "2017-04-18T14:00:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/21 "2017-04-18T22:21:51Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The whole reason I have you on ignore is that bullshit. To the point that I assumed by the title of this thread that this was going to be a bit of satire.

The whole reason I have you on ignore is purple. Which is not satire.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/22 "2017-04-18T22:23:00Z")

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Originally posted by Vinyl Turnip: “I just pray that nobody asks him to hold their baby.”

Me, too.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zcZJF81jt4w/maxresdefault.jpg "The Dead Zone (10/10) Movie CLIP - Thwarted Assassination (1983) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZJF81jt4w)

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/23 "2017-04-18T22:26:36Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s a nice gesture, but it’s optional to put your hand over your heart for the national anthem. It is permissible to stand respectfully with your hands at your sides while it is being played.

It’s permissible to do many things. Like take a knee. However, if you want to follow the flag code, it was changed in 2008 to indicate people not in uniform should [place their hand over their heart](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301). Presumably over their heart-shaped hole for those lacking a heart.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/24 "2017-04-18T22:29:40Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> He couldn’t throw that hard. It’s those short little fingers, which also account for his terrible aim, and lack of prowess at the blues saxophone.

Blues saxophone?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/25 "2017-04-18T22:31:27Z")

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He tried harmonica, but his fingers kept getting stuck in the holes.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/26 "2017-04-18T22:32:00Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Yeah. Back to the kid.  
> [http://freebeacon.com/politics/media-spreads-misleading-video-showing-trump-supposedly-tossing-away-kids-hat/](http://freebeacon.com/politics/media-spreads-misleading-video-showing-trump-supposedly-tossing-away-kids-hat/)
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> But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good, old-fashioned, brain-dead rant about Trump being a schoolyard bully?

I don’t see how anyone can watch the video and agree with you. First, what’s not seen is that the crowd was behind another barrier about 10 feet away. (see [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wrUlgfcwbw) at :27). I guess someone had to bring him the hat, and throwing it back would be ok, but Trump doesn’t even look up before flinging it in the air. It’s a miracle that anyone caught it.

The crowd is obviously surprised and disappointed for some reason and the only explanation is that the kid didn’t get the hat. Trump does the right thing and gets another hat (I assume from a staffer or other adult who is giving up their hat for the kid) and throws it with more care.

Then he holds up the pen and asks what everyone thinks is “whose hat?” but I assume he’s saying “whose that [pen belong to]?”

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/27 "2017-04-18T22:36:46Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Yeah. Back to the kid.  
> [http://freebeacon.com/politics/media-spreads-misleading-video-showing-trump-supposedly-tossing-away-kids-hat/](http://freebeacon.com/politics/media-spreads-misleading-video-showing-trump-supposedly-tossing-away-kids-hat/)
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> But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good, old-fashioned, brain-dead rant about Trump being a schoolyard bully?

Mmm, free bacon.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/28 "2017-04-18T22:41:25Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s a nice gesture, but it’s optional to put your hand over your heart for the national anthem. It is permissible to stand respectfully with your hands at your sides while it is being played.

Do I care so much about the hand over heart thing - nah - although boy do some people get their knockers in a twist about the protocol of this stuff. I did truly enjoy the elbow to the ribs though, with the nice little side glare. 😃

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/29 "2017-04-18T23:27:41Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Blues saxophone?

The noted sax player from Arkansas, Blind Willie Jefferson. 😃

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d7/4c/bf/d74cbf66b79a6a84eedfa5cec292b5cc.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d7/4c/bf/d74cbf66b79a6a84eedfa5cec292b5cc.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/30 "2017-04-18T23:42:16Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> I don’t see how anyone can watch the video and agree with you."

Well, you have to consider that **Clothahump** is severely mentally handicapped.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/31 "2017-04-19T00:47:38Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Blues saxophone?

_Simpsons_ reference, from an early season. Lisa wants to be a renowned blues saxophonist, but is hampered by inheriting her father’s “stumpy fingers.”

“Blues” in this case is not Delta blues or Piedmont blues, but post-WWII Chicago blues, with electric guitars and thumpy drum sets and horn sections. See also Kansas City blues, which coexisted with jazz (Count Basie’s band is the most famous) and featured plenty of trumpets and saxes.

Musicology hijack now over.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/32 "2017-04-19T00:49:05Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Well, you have to consider that **Clothahump** is severely mentally handicapped.

That is _so_ politically incorrect! I just think of him as a retard.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/33 "2017-04-19T01:46:33Z")

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Cognitively challenged.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/34 "2017-04-19T01:58:49Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s a nice gesture, but it’s optional to put your hand over your heart for the national anthem. It is permissible to stand respectfully with your hands at your sides while it is being played.

It’s _permissable_ to stand there tossing off. There are no Flag Police making sure you perform the appropriate kowtow. But if you’re the President, and you’re a member of the party that gave Obama eight years of shit for every perceived lapse in patriotic formality, then it’s a good idea to cover your heart when the anthem is played.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/35 "2017-04-19T02:07:47Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> It’s _permissable_ to stand there tossing off. There are no Flag Police making sure you perform the appropriate kowtow. But if you’re the President, and you’re a member of the party that gave Obama eight years of shit for every perceived lapse in patriotic formality, then it’s a good idea to cover your heart when the anthem is played.

Especially when your immigrant wife has to remind you of your patriotic duty.

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/36 "2017-04-19T02:28:15Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> It’s _permissable_ to stand there tossing off. There are no Flag Police making sure you perform the appropriate kowtow. But if you’re the President, and you’re a member of the party that gave Obama eight years of shit for every perceived lapse in patriotic formality, then it’s a good idea to cover your heart when the anthem is played.

How about the \*5-year-old-kid-swaying-to-music \*moves he was making just before the nudge?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/37 "2017-04-19T02:29:19Z")

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To be fair, she worked harder to become an American citizen than Trump has at, well, practically anything in his life, and likely values patriotism more than her husband who is willing to verbally fellate Vladimir Putin at the slightest provocation.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/38 "2017-04-19T13:58:58Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> He couldn’t throw that hard. It’s those short little fingers, which also account for his terrible aim, and lack of prowess at the blues saxophone.

Bullshit. He was the best baseball player in the state of New York. He said so.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/39 "2017-04-19T16:24:14Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Bullshit. He was the best baseball player in the state of New York. He said so.

Big league!

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-the-despicable-school-yard-bully/784701/40 "2017-04-19T17:43:57Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Have a clue and note that I respected the decision of the moderators.

All this shows is that when a mod calls you an idiot, you back down; when others call you an idiot, your feathers get ruffled.

You’re still an idiot, either way.

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