# Trump threatens political opponents

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149 "2019-03-14T20:30:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/41 "2019-03-15T18:36:44Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Lol. That can’t be a serious post. With 59,000 posts you’ve been around long enough to know that there are many instances of the so-called left using violence to suppress speech.

Surely you’d be able to provide a few, if they in fact exist.  
What a fantasy world the right lives in- Donald says something in an interview with a VERY friendly “media” outlet and he is called out using his exact words as inciting violence. Nobody from the White House or Breitbart has questioned the authenticity of the quote. Yet because this quote appeared in an opinion piece it is to be questioned.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/42 "2019-03-15T18:37:12Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Lol. That can’t be a serious post. With 59,000 posts you’ve been around long enough to know that there are many instances of the so-called left using violence to suppress speech.

Your claim, bubula-step right up and back it up.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/43 "2019-03-15T18:48:33Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Lol. That can’t be a serious post. With 59,000 posts you’ve been around long enough to know that there are many instances of the so-called left using violence to suppress speech.

Only a fraction of the violence committed by the right, though.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/44 "2019-03-15T19:40:47Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> So the SDMB is accepting Breitbart as factual, now?
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> Good to know!

The quote has been verified by several sources. What it means- yes, you can question Breitbart. But IMHO they are not as bad as FOX.

Do you have a reason to doubt trump said this? Maybe a Snopes article that debunks it?:dubious:

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/45 "2019-03-15T19:42:15Z")

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> [@Dacien](#):
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> I remember reading about when the president physically threatened a Washington Post reporter because he didn’t like a review that was published.
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> President Truman, that is.  
> …

“whataboutism”.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/46 "2019-03-15T19:42:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Surely you’d be able to provide a few, if they in fact exist.

The most notorious couple of examples would do.

And some of them, I’m sure, are good people.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/47 "2019-03-15T19:43:25Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> …  
> That’s not how it works. The person making the claim, Mr. Lockhart, and by extension, the OP, have to back up their claims, not just throw shit out there.

They did. Now it’s _your turn_ to come up with a cite that debunks it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/48 "2019-03-15T19:52:53Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Surely you’d be able to provide a few, if they in fact exist.  
> What a fantasy world the right lives in- Donald says something in an interview with a VERY friendly “media” outlet and he is called out using his exact words as inciting violence. Nobody from the White House or Breitbart has questioned the authenticity of the quote. Yet because this quote appeared in an opinion piece it is to be questioned.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Your claim, bubula-step right up and back it up.

I have no compelling reason to link anything that you two have already seen in multiple threads on this very forum. Feigned ignorance is accomplishing what?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/49 "2019-03-15T20:10:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I have no compelling reason to link anything that you two have already seen in multiple threads on this very forum. Feigned ignorance is accomplishing what?

It would have been a bit less embarrassing for you if you had only just stayed away, instead of posting that you you couldn’t come up with anything-at least the former might have indicated that you were too busy to respond.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/50 "2019-03-15T20:15:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It would have been a bit less embarrassing for you if you had only just stayed away, instead of posting that you you couldn’t come up with anything-at least the former might have indicated that you were too busy to respond.

Maybe you two can take this to another thread, and the rest of use could get back to the OP?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/51 "2019-03-15T20:26:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> They did. Now it’s _your turn_ to come up with a cite that debunks it.

Please understand this. An opinion piece is NOT a cite backing anything up, no matter how many times it’s repeated.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/52 "2019-03-15T20:27:33Z")

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> [@Trump](#):
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> I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of Bikers for Trump – I have tough people, but they don’t play it tough until they go to a certain point and then it would be very, very bad.

The fact is, unless someone wants to make a case that he was trying to say that “…it would be very, very bad” for the “tough people” that support him if they step over the line(there is your straw for the grabbing, Trumpettes), then he was indeed indirectly threatening those he views as enemies.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/53 "2019-03-15T20:27:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It’s no different from his “Second Amendment people” threat. But it doesn’t mean anything more than that, it’s just his usual bluster to the usual deplorables.

Until they start mailing bombs to people. Remember what Cohen said. He doesn’t give orders, he just says what he’d like to see happen.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/54 "2019-03-15T20:31:39Z")

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Right Wing mails bombs, Left Wing swings bike locks. It’s all the same, folks!

We still entertain these ridiculous hijacks?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/55 "2019-03-15T20:33:06Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Please understand this. An opinion piece is NOT a cite backing anything up, no matter how many times it’s repeated.

The opinion part isnt but it’s about a very real quote, which has been cited elsewhere.

Now come up with something that sez he didnt say it.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/56 "2019-03-15T20:34:41Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Please understand this. An opinion piece is NOT a cite backing anything up, no matter how many times it’s repeated.

It’s a fact that Trump has publicly and explicitly praised, encouraged, and even threatened violence on numerous occasions. It’s reasonable to suspect that this latest quote is another in this same long line of encouragement/praise/threats of violence. When someone has a history of praising/encouraging/threatening violence, and makes another statement that might allude to violence, it’s reasonable to suspect that yes, this is another in that trend.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/57 "2019-03-15T20:36:44Z")

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> **[Donald Trump stirs controversy with Breitbart interview about his 'tough'...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/15/trump-deletes-breitbart-post-how-tough-his-supporters-can-get/3172413002/)**
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> "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people," Trump says.

> **[Trump suggests that supporters may get 'tough' against Democrats | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/politics/trump-breitbart-interview-tough-supporters-democrats-violence/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump appeared to insinuate in a recent interview that his supporters -- the police, military and "Bikers for Trump," he claims -- could turn violent against Democrats.

> **[Trump warns 'tough' supporters could turn things 'very bad' if provoked](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-warns-tough-supporters-turn-things-bad-provoked/story?id=61709959)**
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> President Trump is under fire for comments in a recent interview with Breitbart News in which he warned of 'very bad' consequences for provoking his 'tough' supporters.

CNN, ABC and USAToday.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/58 "2019-03-15T20:39:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s a fact that Trump has publicly and explicitly praised, encouraged, and even threatened violence on numerous occasions. It’s reasonable to suspect that this latest quote is another in this same long line of encouragement/praise/threats of violence. When someone has a history of praising/encouraging/threatening violence, and makes another statement that might allude to violence, it’s reasonable to suspect that yes, this is another in that trend.

Especially as the recipients of that message will surely take it that way.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/59 "2019-03-15T20:39:55Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> [Donald Trump tells Breitbart his supporters can get 'tough'](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/15/trump-deletes-breitbart-post-how-tough-his-supporters-can-get/3172413002/)  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/politics/trump-breitbart-interview-tough-supporters-democrats-violence/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/politics/trump-breitbart-interview-tough-supporters-democrats-violence/index.html)  
> [Trump warns 'tough' supporters could turn things 'very bad' if provoked - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-warns-tough-supporters-turn-things-bad-provoked/story?id=61709959)
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> CNN, ABC and USAToday.

They are quoting the Breitbart article.

Pretty much every utterance of a president is transcribed, videotaped, or both.

Please provide such evidence.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-political-opponents/831149/60 "2019-03-15T20:46:54Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> They are quoting the Breitbart article.
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> Pretty much every utterance of a president is transcribed, videotaped, or both.
> 
> Please provide such evidence.

:rolleyes:

Transcriptions are there. _White House counselor Kellyanne Conway confirmed the quote._  
Prove we landed on the Moon.😕 Prove the Earth isn’t flat. 😕

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