# Trump threatens to move GOP convention from NC **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 25, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440 "2020-05-25T13:28:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/41 "2020-05-26T16:01:01Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > What the GOP _should_ do is a huge Conservative Burning Man-like festival out in the open air desert. Everyone can bring their RVs or tents or whatever. They could even have big Obama effigy to burn at the end! And I have just the place for it. Over the weekend there were many reports (some even made national news) of thousands of revelers at Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri (many of them from Kansas City and St. Louis) enjoying the sun, the scenery, and the absence of personal responsibility. The local government’s response was that wearing masks and staying six feet apart, “is a guideline, not a law.” I’m sure the good people in central Missouri would welcome thousands of people eager to assemble, do a little business, and play golf, water ski, and drink heavily while they’re there. And the people in Kansas City and St. Louis would appreciate that all those people will get the hell out of Missouri and go back to their homes instead of hanging around here. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/42 "2020-05-26T19:20:24Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I know that I will be criticized for this, but if you take the politics out of it, it is not an unusual request at all. > > If I have a group of tens of thousands of people who want to meet in an area in August, that is a substantial financial outlay that needs to begin now if not sooner. So I ask the person in authority if he or she can guarantee that I will have that access. Interesting, [because that’s not the approach the RNC used](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/26/trumps-rage-another-governor-is-uglier-than-it-first-seemed/). > [@NC Secretary of Health and Human Services Mandy Cohen](#): > > Thank you for taking the time to meet by phone on Friday with Governor Cooper, me and [Director of Intergovernmental Affairs] Jordan Whichard. As we discussed, we look forward to continuing to work with you and your team to ensure a safe RNC Convention for your participants and the people of Charlotte. I wanted to reach out today as we saw the tweet from President Trump this morning sharing an accelerated decision-making timeline regarding hosting the Convention in Charlotte. Rather than issue demands for unobtainable guarantees, the RNC was instead engaged in quiet talks with NC’s government to figure out how they could proceed with the convention in a manner that respected the safety both of conventiongoers and of locals. Then Trump cannonballed into the negotiations and fucked it all up. There’s a decent chance he’s gonna force the RNC to scramble to relocate their convention in another state, AND will force it to hold the convention in the least safe manner possible, endangering the lives of the old bigots at the head of the party. If it weren’t for the danger it’s gonna pose to the low-wage workers at the convention, I wouldn’t shed a tear, but goddamn. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/43 "2020-05-26T19:31:20Z")
I know the Republicans bend over and let Individual 1 ram it in whenever he wants, but doesn’t moving the convention require a vote of the Republican National Committee? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/44 "2020-05-26T19:46:27Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I know that I will be criticized for this, but if you take the politics out of it, it is not an unusual request at all. If you take the politics out of it, then there’s no reason for the thing to happen in the first place. With COVID-19 concerns, there’s no reason to have such a gathering. Literally nothing will be decided there. The only reason this even needs to exist is as a political rally for Donald Trump. And, yes, there is nothing reasonable about declaring this all publicly, rather than negotiating behind the scenes. So, yes, you will be criticized, because you’re deliberately cherrypicking to make the whole thing seem reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![OsoPolar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4bbf92/32.png) [@OsoPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OsoPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/45 "2020-05-26T19:48:16Z")
nvm ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/46 "2020-05-26T20:05:33Z")
GA and FLA governors have already rolled out the red carpet for the Trump cult. No way it stays in NC. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/47 "2020-05-26T20:21:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Then Trump cannonballed into the negotiations and fucked it all up. There’s a decent chance he’s gonna force the RNC to scramble to relocate their convention in another state, AND will force it to hold the convention in the least safe manner possible, endangering the lives of the old bigots at the head of the party. [sarcasm] Really? That sounds so unlike him.[/sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/48 "2020-05-26T23:11:43Z")
I think it will be moved in a week or 2 weeks at the most. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/49 "2020-05-27T00:16:14Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > I think it will be moved in a week or 2 weeks at the most. That seems likely–but there’s also a good chance that the RNC talks him down. Arranging a multi-day, high security event for 50,000 people is, under the best of circumstances, a logistical tour de force that takes many months to pull off. Doing so mid-pandemic has got to be way harder. If they have to move it with less than three months to plan–well, I just think there may be people in the RNC who are less than pleased about that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/50 "2020-05-27T00:28:55Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > That seems likely–but there’s also a good chance that the RNC talks him down. Arranging a multi-day, high security event for 50,000 people is, under the best of circumstances, a logistical tour de force that takes many months to pull off. Doing so mid-pandemic has got to be way harder. If they have to move it with less than three months to plan– **well, I just think there may be people in the RNC who are less than pleased about that**. They hitched their wagon to a horse that was running towards a cliff. Sucks to be them. Especially since they were the ones yelling “Faster, faster!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/51 "2020-05-27T00:33:55Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They hitched their wagon to a horse that was running towards a cliff. Sucks to be them. Especially since they were the ones yelling “Faster, faster!!!” Yeah. At this point it’s just a free-for-all: GRAB THE CASH!!! And for the more thoughtful among the carrion-eaters: SCREW THE CONSEQUENCES, WE CAN BLAME THOSE ON THE DEMOCRATS!!! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/52 "2020-05-27T01:06:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Then Trump cannonballed into the negotiations and fucked it all up. Because he needs to make it look like he imposed his will one way or the other, and he did not want terms and conditions negotiated that he and his Trumpaloompahs would have to follow. If it stays in NC, he wants to say \*“This very terrible Governor, he did not want this to happen, until I came out and said we’ll go elsewhere if you don’t let us do it the way we want it, and he had to back down,” \*even if nobody backs down and sensible arrangements were made but he just goes against all agreements because “hey, who’s gonna make me?”. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/53 "2020-05-27T02:07:06Z")
I don’t see Cooper backing down even if he is on the ballot this year. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/54 "2020-05-27T02:47:43Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > I think it will be moved in a week or 2 weeks at the most. If that really happens, then good riddance; I’d expect the entire thing to be an epic clusterfuck in keeping with this entire adminstration. But then again, who is to say that it won’t be exactly that if they _don’t_ move it? And \*\*BigT \*\*makes a good point - nothing is going to be decided there, so the only reason to have it is to glorify the Dear Leader. If anyone gets sick and dies as a result of attending … that’s not going to be a good look … ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/55 "2020-05-27T13:43:18Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t think conventions are huge moneymakers for the host city… The hookers and rent boys of Charlotte would like a quiet word with you. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/56 "2020-05-27T14:30:03Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > If that really happens, then good riddance; I’d expect the entire thing to be an epic clusterfuck in keeping with this entire adminstration. But then again, who is to say that it won’t be exactly that if they _don’t_ move it? And \*\*BigT \*\*makes a good point - nothing is going to be decided there, so the only reason to have it is to glorify the Dear Leader. If anyone gets sick and dies as a result of attending … that’s not going to be a good look … Glorifying Dear Leader may be the only reason, but it’s THE most important reason! How long has it been since trump has been cheered and screamed at (with millions of aerosolized spit droplets) by the teaming, adoring hordes? Doing without a rally is a greater hardship than doing without golf! :eek: Maybe they can just fill all the convention attendees’ seats with Korean sex dolls, holding the appropriate state banners. And play recorded shouting and applause. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/57 "2020-05-27T15:08:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m part of a group that wanted to meet in an area in August, meet by the thousands. It’s called Gencon, an enormous gathering of gamers that’s happened in Indianapolis every August for a couple of decades. It’s a huge economic event for the city center. > > Here’s what the Gencon organizers didn’t do: > -They didn’t negotiate with Indiana’s governor over Twitter. > -They didn’t mention his party affiliation. > -They didn’t blow smoke up Hoosiers’ asses about how much they love their great state. > -They didn’t demand information immediately about what would be happening with pandemic response in three months. > > Here’s what they did: > -They canceled Gencon, recognizing that their responsibility toward their constituents and toward the community as a whole was to not have a giant event in the middle of a pandemic. Likewise Burning Man was cancelled in early April. In the statement the Org stated it would be a Bad Idea to bring 50,000 people in from all over to the world to a desert location where all of the water has to be hauled in so the extra sanitation steps would be tricky, let them mix freely, then have them disperse back to their homes. In the statement, it said that maybe – just _maybe_ – the pandemic will have blown over by late August but they couldn’t be sure, and there are too many moving parts to rev up in July or August to make it happen properly. So rather than keep thousands of people in suspense, they would pull the plug now (early April). This was a big blow for a $40-million a year enterprise, 97% of the revenues coming from ticket sales but they bit the bullet and did it. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/58 "2020-05-27T15:49:56Z")
He would probably prefer a domed stadium rather than a BB arena. Atlanta and St. Pete fit that bill. If he settles for an arena he has Sunrise FL, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta to pick from. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/59 "2020-05-27T21:08:01Z")
I found out something today I did not know - that _[Charlotte was the only city to bid for the RNC 2020 convention](https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/07/why-charlotte-and-only-charlotte-wants-the-2020-rnc/566093/)_ (the Nevada Republican party put in a bid to have it in Las Vegas, but without the support of the city or the visitors’ bureau). Gee, I wonder why?? Somehow I don’t think there will be any support at all from officials in Atlanta for moving it there … ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440/60 "2020-05-27T21:13:43Z")
2022 winter olympics only had 2 bids, China and Khazikstan. Bejing won and they are going to reuse some places from their summer olympics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-move-gop-convention-from-nc/854440.md?page=4)