# Trump Threatens to Send in the Feds to Chicago **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 25, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114 "2017-01-25T03:47:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/81 "2017-01-26T04:24:47Z")
I’d start looking at front businesses. Money laundering. That can be done quietly, and with results. This cuts off the Gangbangers and cause of violence money. Yes follow the money. The Feds are good at it. There is alot he can do, legally. without asking for “the national guard” He can hit them, the crooked cops, and the politicians, right down to squeezing the precinct captains till they sing. Rahm Emanuel’s sanctuary city declaration just gave him the green light to start in on ICE coming in, now we look at rackets like The Spanish Coalition for Jobs, which is nothing more than an ID gathering, cheap labor for Dem businesses, and dope dealer front. Ouch, where does that rabbit hole lead? I grew up in McKinley Park, trust me… I know too much about it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/82 "2017-01-26T04:31:21Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Didn’t you see the documentary about Snake Plissken? I heard he was dead. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/83 "2017-01-26T04:34:32Z")
All of this will in no way mark a return to the bad old days of domestic terrorism and civil unrest. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/84 "2017-01-26T04:55:42Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I assume he means drone strikes. And the two situations… really aren’t that comparable. The New Yorker : Amy Davidson : **[The President’s Kill List](http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-presidents-kill-list)** May 2012 Wiki : **[The Disposition Matrix](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix)** President Duterte allegedly kills, or has killed, people he doesn’t like, on his own authority. Mainly drug dealers. President Obama kills, or has killed, people he doesn’t like, on his own authority. Mainly terrorists, including Americans. Most countries do _not_ give the power of life and death to the Head of State — they leave the decision to judges to condemn. Nor did America before [the Kennedy murder squad in Latin America that so horrified LBJ was _ultra vires_]. President Hollande has copied Obama’s power, and now you’ve chosen for President Trump to inherit this ability to deliver death from the skies ! Well done, America ! ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/85 "2017-01-26T05:05:25Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > President Duterte allegedly kills, or has killed, people he doesn’t like, on his own authority. > > Mainly drug dealers. And users, of course. And street children. He won the presidency by running on the _Kill Thousands of Criminals_ ticket. He supported Hillary in her election. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/86 "2017-01-26T05:37:14Z")
It is amazing this new found respect from the left for federalism, states’ rights, and constitutional constraints on national power. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/87 "2017-01-26T05:41:05Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It is amazing this new found respect from the left for federalism, states’ rights, and constitutional constraints on national power. It is amazing this new found disregard from the right for states’ rights and constitutional constraints on national power. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/88 "2017-01-26T05:43:31Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It is amazing this new found disregard from the right for states’ rights and constitutional constraints on national power. It is isn’t it? Though I don’t think the small-government wing of the Republican party is too thrilled with an expansion of big government. Which we haven’t seen yet with Trump since it’s only been approximately a week. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/89 "2017-01-26T06:17:29Z")
What? Does it take a week for you to see things? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/90 "2017-01-26T07:12:34Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > I’d start looking at front businesses. Money laundering. That can be done quietly, and with results. > This cuts off the Gangbangers and cause of violence money. Yes follow the money. The Feds are good at it. Of course, none of that is what Loser Donald is actually _thinking_ about doing, because he’s not smart enough to come up with an idea that nuanced. He thinks all the cops have to do is “get tough” and “stop holding back” and “go after the bad guys” and all will be well. Any attempted federal crackdown on Chicago is going to be about as subtle as the military parades he wants to send down Pennsylvania Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/91 "2017-01-26T07:17:18Z")
A federal crackdown on Chicago is unconstitutional. The only thing Trump can really do consistent with his views is tell the Justice Dept to go easy on cops accused of civil rights violations in Chicago, which is a power consistent with the power of prosecutorial discretion. He could simply say, “Chicago is a special case, we won’t be constraining them at the federal level.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/92 "2017-01-26T07:21:35Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > A federal crackdown on Chicago is unconstitutional. Of course, Trump would have to _read_ the Constitution in order to know that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/93 "2017-01-26T08:45:55Z")
Rahm Emmanuel blames the federal government, including Barack Obama’s federal government: [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-trump-chicago-carnage-tweet-20170124-story.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-trump-chicago-carnage-tweet-20170124-story.html) > [@](#): > > “There’s a lot the federal government can do,” Emanuel said, citing gun control, use of federal resources to track illegal guns and federal prosecutions. “And also, fundamentally, in my view, also help fund additional police officers. > > “Over the years the federal government’s stepped back their resources, which we have stepped up. The federal government can be a partner, and to be honest they haven’t been for decades.” Not that what he’s saying makes any sense whatsoever. Federal gun control laws would do nothing to make Chicago safer, since they’ve never made Chicago safer before. You see, there’s these people called “criminals”, and they don’t tend to obey laws, and if you’re not actually arresting and jailing these people, the problem continues. But then again, these are the same people who think crime can’t be stopped with police and prisons. So what’s the point of gun prosecutions then? To harass the law abiding? ---
**Author:** ![gopachok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@gopachok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gopachok)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/94 "2017-01-26T10:11:50Z")
Democrats have been running Chicago uninterruptedly since 1927. There’s absolutely nothing they can or will do to improve the situation. As great of a President as Trump is proving himself to be in the last few days, it is doubtful he’ll be able to stop the wholesale slaughter of people (mostly minorities) that’s going on in Chicago, and in other, similarly democratic-dominated cities like Baltimore, Camden, Detroit, St. Louis, New Orleans (I think democrats have been in charge for 150 years there by now). The only solution is for Trump to appoint a conservative judge to Supreme Court, and have them rule that Democrats cannot occupy a single office in any of those cities for a set period of time (say, 10 years) to give Republicans a chance to clean up the liberal mess. Will they succeed? Maybe, maybe not…but things can’t get much worse… ---
**Author:** ![gopachok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@gopachok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gopachok)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/95 "2017-01-26T10:18:11Z")
Why don’t they just send Guliani there? It’s like the playbook to solve this problem isn’t known: stop and frisk, broken window policing, swift kick to the balls for all the community organizers and Emanual Rahm-like imbeciles, free vasectomies and tubal ligations (and a financial incentive to get one)… ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/96 "2017-01-26T10:41:04Z")
Welcome to the SDMB, **gopachok**! Your suggestions violate US constitutional law, as I expect someone more knowledgeable than I will be along to point out. ---
**Author:** ![gopachok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@gopachok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gopachok)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/97 "2017-01-26T10:52:13Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Welcome to the SDMB, **gopachok**! Thank you, **foolsguinea**! > [@foolsguinea](#): > > Your suggestions violate US constitutional law So do record-breaking yearly murders of thousands of (predominantly black) US citizens in democratic strongholds… ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/98 "2017-01-26T11:11:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > We’re less than a week in, and the GOP has to be considering how long they can keep this albatross. I don’t know what planet you’re living on but on mine the GOP has never been happier. One SCOTUS justice nominated next week, three more in their 80s (2 of them liberals and one who often sides with them), policies they’ve long advocated soon to be realized, their cup runneth over. They’re quite happy to tolerate President Trump’s quirks. After all they owe the guy everything. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/99 "2017-01-26T13:00:02Z")
> [@gopachok](#): > > Democrats have been running Chicago uninterruptedly since 1927. There’s absolutely nothing they can or will do to improve the situation. **As great of a President as Trump is proving himself to be i** n the last few days, it is doubtful he’ll be able to stop the wholesale slaughter of people (mostly minorities) that’s going on in Chicago, and in other, similarly democratic-dominated cities like Baltimore, Camden, Detroit, St. Louis, New Orleans (I think democrats have been in charge for 150 years there by now). > The only solution is for Trump to appoint a conservative judge to Supreme Court, and have them\*\* rule that Democrats cannot occupy a single office in any of those cities for a set period of time \*\*(say, 10 years) to give Republicans a chance to **clean up the liberal mess.** Will they succeed? Maybe, maybe not…but things can’t get much worse… > [@gopachok](#): > > Why don’t they just send Guliani there? It’s like the playbook to solve this problem isn’t known: stop and frisk, broken window policing, swift kick to the balls for all the \*\*community organizers \*\*and Emanual Rahm-like imbeciles, free vasectomies and tubal ligations (and a financial incentive to get one)… Seeking a reaction, chum ? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114/100 "2017-01-26T13:14:05Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Seeking a reaction, chum ? I’m sure [he’ll get one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumming). > [@](#): > > **Chumming** (American English from Powhatan) is the practice of luring various animals, usually fish such as sharks, by throwing “chum” into the water. Chum is bait consisting of fish parts, bone and blood, which attract fish, particularly sharks owing to their keen sense of smell. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-threatens-to-send-in-the-feds-to-chicago/778114.md?page=6)