# Trump to attend Black journalists' convention

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 30, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016 "2024-07-30T18:06:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/201 "2024-08-01T03:45:09Z")

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He is a far right Trump apologist and Covid denier…and where are you getting “1 million subs” from?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/202 "2024-08-01T03:46:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> and where are you getting “1 million subs” from?

Right under the guy’s name, on both that video, and his homepage on Youtube, it says, “1.03M subscribers.”

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/203 "2024-08-01T03:46:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> He is a far right Trump apologist and Covid denier…and where are you getting “1 million subs” from? -

He’s been mod-warned to drop it.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/204 "2024-08-01T03:59:12Z")

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Who else heard the question of JD being ready “on day one” was a subtle hint that you will be impeached before the tiny crowd leaves the inauguration (indoors, because, you know…) ?

Surely not just me? But I loved his answer.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/205 "2024-08-01T04:06:41Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> t’s really deep and complex but it lays out the fact that those of mixed race back then were related to the slave masters themselves.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned from watching Finding Your Roots, and since the days of DNA, is that all black people in the United States are really mixed race. Some are more mixed than others, but good luck finding a black person who has zero white ancestry. I think it’s a bad idea to take any part of your election strategy from a book that is 70 years old.

(Sorry, didn’t read the thread in between. Did not intend to continue hijack.)

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/206 "2024-08-01T04:07:53Z")

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I think this whole event is hilarious because WTF did Trump think was going to happen? Like when it was just getting started, I thought to myself “I bet the headline later today isn’t going to be how Trump had the best day ever and gave a really Presidential answer to every question.” My thought was that he would last about 10 minutes, declare the whole thing to be biased and storm off. Turned out he lasted a little more than half an hour. Still can’t answer basic questions about things he has said. Still can’t stand to have someone repeat his own actions back to him. I wonder if the Republicans are having a moment right now similar to the one Democrats had after the debate. Probably not but at least of few of them have got to be somewhat concerned by now…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/207 "2024-08-01T04:10:15Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> WTF did Trump think was going to happen?

“They’re going to love me. I’ve done more for the blacks than anyone ever. They owe me their loyalty.”

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/208 "2024-08-01T04:18:52Z")

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That’s a pretty standard turn of phrase.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/209 "2024-08-01T04:26:20Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I don’t really care what some YouTube boob like Anthony Brian Logan says but this was a pathetic loss for Team Trump.

Oh, this loser?

> **[President Donald Trump Attends National Black Journalist Event In Chicago For...](https://anthonyblogan.com/president-donald-trump-attends-national-black-journalist-event-in-chicago-for-live-qa/)**
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> President Donald Trump participated in a Q&A segment at the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) event in Chicago. Trump sat on a panel

> The irony here is that a so-called “black woman” that many in the black community champion could not be bothered to show up to a professional black event.

Keep pushing the racist talk. That’s sure going to help your dear leader.

As for the rest of the article, there are zero specifics, because any actual details are going to belie statements like:

> Overall, Trump did well despite the hostile environment on stage and in the audience.

People on the right are only going to hear opinions from propagandists like this guy and aren’t going to actually see the debacle itself because they don’t think they have to.

That’s okay. They’re going to vote for Trump no matter what. This is going to really hurt him where it matters though, and that’s with people who aren’t part of his base.

You are right that this was an unmitigated disaster for Trump. Ouch.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/210 "2024-08-01T04:32:47Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> :snip:  
> My thought was that he would last about 10 minutes, declare the whole thing to be biased and storm off. Turned out he lasted a little more than half an hour.  
> :snip:

Yeah, but the event started an hour late because he and his team were having a meltdown backstage when they found out [he would be fact checked in real time.](https://www.mediaite.com/trump/nyt-reports-trump-nabj-interview-delayed-over-his-fury-at-fact-checking-not-audio-issues-as-he-claimed/)

So still a pathetic liar and giant loser.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/211 "2024-08-01T04:34:20Z")

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Well the simple solution to that conundrum is to tell Trump that if he wants to screw around and waste time he is welcome to do so… outside.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/212 "2024-08-01T04:57:20Z")

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No one here even mentioned that he questioned whether the Vice President passed the bar exam. When they tried to correct him he just yells over them and keeps lying. What a dick loser.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/213 "2024-08-01T05:06:56Z")

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> [@split\_p\_j](#):
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> He wasn’t trying to win progressives to his side here, it’s all about the margins now.

Right, and in the margins, there are people saying, “Aw, c’mon, what the fuck, man!” at his performance. This isn’t going to help him in the margins. People who weren’t paying attention in the margins are now paying attention to his insulting Black journalists who were asking fair questions. They’re paying attention to his straight-up lies about how Harris describes her racial identity. They’re paying attention to his ignorance about how Black people understand race, and get out of here with that “He’s drawing on theories from a 70-year-old book about racial identity that he’s totally heard of, let alone read” nonsense.

And you’re hearing hoofbeats and thinking zebras. Trump has a cult of personality built around him, where his loyal cultists follow him around and laugh at his inane banter and make him think he’s a genius. It’s super fucked up, but he lives in this world where the sycophants feed his ego constantly. When he’s in another arena, the only move he has is to call people nasty and to make his inane banter even angrier and more sullen.

He’s not got some subtle understanding of the difference between Black and African American. He projects his own fakery onto everyone else, and assumes that because he doesn’t understand multiracial identities that must mean Harris is a liar.

That wasn’t a strategy. It was just Trump being his awful self.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/214 "2024-08-01T05:09:58Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Right, and in the margins, there are people saying, “Aw, c’mon, what the fuck, man!”

To all: split\_p\_j has been directed to cease responding in this thread so as to give other posters a chance to discuss their views, rather than have their view dominating the discussion as it has up to this point.

Please respect this directive by not engaging further on the points they have made. Thanks.

There’s a dedicated Pit thread if you just can’t resist:

> [@I Pit Split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-split-p-j/941620):
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> My first pitting! This tool comes out guns blazing in the [Derek Chauvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-reactions/939024/876) thread claiming to have a smoking gun, but when shown that the gun is actually a steaming turd, just keeps repeating the same nonsense again and again. I’m guessing this guy is about as Black as David Duke.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
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> [@Miller](#):
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> You tell any African-descended person outside of America that they’re not Black, and they’ll also laugh at you.

I’m African-descended, literally _in_ Africa, and I’m not Black. It’s not _quite_ so clear-cut.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/216 "2024-08-01T06:44:35Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Keep pushing the racist talk. That’s sure going to help your dear leader.

I fear your dare may turn out to go towards mango-support instead of against him. I sincerely hope I’m wrong. Just part of me thinks this all just turns into racial bullshit and no discussion on climate, wars, guns, taxes, etc.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/217 "2024-08-01T06:48:03Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Trump tried to show his cleverness by asking what the questioner’s definition of DEI was. Yeah, that worked out well, Donnie boy.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m not entirely convinced that he doesn’t actually know what “DEI” means and was genuinely asking.

No, he was definitely going for a “Gotcha” on that one. He’s seen or heard about people on his side being publicly embarrassed by being asked to [define terms they use, like “woke”](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/19/woke-debate-conservative-author-struggles-to-define-ip-sot-vpx.cnn), and being completely unable to do that. He thought he could turn the tables on them using the same strategy, but was utterly unaware that some people actually can define the words they use without going into brain lock.

It was clear from his reaction that he had no fall back plan. He really thought this would work to get him off the hook, and generate a video his side could use to embarrass the interviewers.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/218 "2024-08-01T07:18:23Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I fear your dare may turn out to go towards mango-support instead of against him.

There is no way that rhetoric gains him support outside of his base.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/219 "2024-08-01T07:21:09Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I think this whole event is hilarious because WTF did Trump think was going to happen?

That one’s easy. He thought they’d love him.

Remember, he’s always surrounded by sycophants who tell him that he’s the Bestest President Ever (present tense fully intended); he only watches TV news on channels that like him; he’s got staff who provide him with newspaper clippings that are favourable to him; and his rally crowds obviously love him. He’s living in a bubble where he is loved by all.

But he’s never spoken before a crowd that doesn’t love him. Today he did. And he learned that he’s not popular with all Americans, contrary to what his bubble and his sycophants tell him. No doubt, he’s confused by it—“I thought they’d love me”—but he faced reality today, and he obviously didn’t like it.

I’m sure that somewhere, tonight, there’s a ketchup-stained wall.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/220 "2024-08-01T07:24:05Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> But he’s never spoken before a crowd that doesn’t love him. Today he did.

Oh I’m sure he _has_, particularly before being nominated in 2016. But it has probably been a while, and he might think that at this point he has achieved a status where he doesn’t have to ever face a crowd that isn’t ecstatic to see him. So it would still be a shock.

He’s also very aware that there are people that hate him, but I’m sure to him it’s some tiny percentage of rabid left wing loonies. After all, he’s constantly complaining and threatening his enemies, so he knows they’re out there. He just figures they’re out **there** , to find that they might be _in the room with him_ is inconceivable.

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