# Trump to attend Black journalists' convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 30, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016 "2024-07-30T18:06:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/241 "2024-08-01T14:05:54Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > But what a dumb strategy. Yeah, I’ve been trying to figure out what (if any) strategy was being attempted by Team Trump. I think that insulting Black journalists is not usually a good method for winning Black votes, but what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/242 "2024-08-01T14:19:38Z")
Trump probably thinks most people hate the media as much as he does so by that logic, if he goes in and insults black media it should impress the black audience. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/243 "2024-08-01T14:23:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > > > I don’t know if she was trying to be cute or disingenuous, but presumably she’s not that dumb. > > I’m guessing as a white South African, she doesn’t want people to think she’s trying to be “clever” by calling herself African-American. Come to think of it, I believe her intention was to point out that the Census form should have more options. And we should drop this hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/244 "2024-08-01T14:32:52Z")
missed mod statement ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/245 "2024-08-01T14:43:39Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Hoo boy. I’m amazed at how I can still be surprised how awful trump can be. And trump’s handlers letting him try to deliver the idea that Harris is not ‘Black enough’, if that’s what was happening, is a stupid miscalculation on their part. Not that tactics like that can’t work-- Karl Rove was the evil genius behind George W. Bush and other Repubs, who was successful at attacking opponents on their strengths (Swift Boat Veterans Against Kerry). > > But Rove created ‘whisper campaigns’ behind the scenes to do his dirty work-- he’d never let W, who never met a sentence he couldn’t mangle, attempt that sort of thing. Those kinds of calculated wedge issue tactics require a certain rhetorical skill and subtlety. Using trump to try to deliver that kind of message is like using a meat cleaver to try to perform an appendectomy. Thank you for putting into words what I was thinking. If this is a strategy behind closed doors then telling Trump about it was a mistake. If you want to drive a wedge between black voters having an old white guy tell you who is black and who isn’t feels like just about the worst idea possible. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/246 "2024-08-01T14:50:23Z")
Agree. However, while we see this as a major unforced error, MAGA country will be thinking this was a brilliant move that both won over the black vote and owned Harris (and the libs). I say let the MSM and Faux News amplify both POV - it will seem outrageous to one and comforting to the other. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/247 "2024-08-01T14:56:10Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Agree. However, while we see this as a major unforced error, MAGA country will be thinking this was a brilliant move that both won over the black vote and owned Harris (and the libs). I say let the MSM and Faux News amplify both POV - it will seem outrageous to one and comforting to the other. On that side the spin is that the journalists were mean. Poor Donald people were mean to him. It’s pretty clear now why they picked Vance. He has no problem being Trump’s attack dog. He was immediately on the offense about the conference in a way that Trump does not have the ability to do. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/248 "2024-08-01T14:56:14Z")
Here’s a take on how I think Trump’s performance should have been handled at the NABJ conference: [https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-clashes-with-journalists-nabj-reaction/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-clashes-with-journalists-nabj-reaction/) > Journalist Ronald Martin, host of “[Roland Martin Unfiltered](https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frolandsmartin.vista.page%2F&e=AT1iNmGBKNQExyWVpSmZyFlhoUMPIG7JYOPjukaSQqJ1Iq4Lhwa7GzgMeFgVKVqt3G0MShWVwpAAAw1EjW2ObFQ5H-o_2v7apygYrw),” says NABJ leadership should have intervened when Trump began insulting the panel. > > “Somebody in leadership should have stood up and said, hold on one second. Before we continue any further, you have insulted our members,” Martin told the press after the heated panel. “What you’re not going to do is begin this conversation insulting members of this panel. But again, that’s called setting the tone at the outset, and we didn’t do it.” Stern moderation would definitely put a speed bump in the path of Trump’s bulldozer methods. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/249 "2024-08-01T14:57:47Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > Stern moderation would definitely put a speed bump in the path of Trump’s bulldozer methods. I disagree with this. He’d just keep rolling regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/250 "2024-08-01T14:58:23Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > Here’s a take on how I think Trump’s performance should have been handled at the NABJ conference: > > [https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-clashes-with-journalists-nabj-reaction/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-clashes-with-journalists-nabj-reaction/) > > > Journalist Ronald Martin, host of “[Roland Martin Unfiltered](https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frolandsmartin.vista.page%2F&e=AT1iNmGBKNQExyWVpSmZyFlhoUMPIG7JYOPjukaSQqJ1Iq4Lhwa7GzgMeFgVKVqt3G0MShWVwpAAAw1EjW2ObFQ5H-o_2v7apygYrw),” says NABJ leadership should have intervened when Trump began insulting the panel. > > > > “Somebody in leadership should have stood up and said, hold on one second. Before we continue any further, you have insulted our members,” Martin told the press after the heated panel. “What you’re not going to do is begin this conversation insulting members of this panel. But again, that’s called setting the tone at the outset, and we didn’t do it.” > > Stern moderation would definitely put a speed bump in the path of Trump’s bulldozer methods. You really think that would slow him down? Unless you put up real physical barriers like turning off the microphone in between questions he will bulldoze through any metaphorical speedbumps. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/251 "2024-08-01T15:32:43Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I loved how Trump couldn’t be arsed to say that Vance would be ready to be President on Day One – more that VPs really don’t move the election needle much at all. Trump can’t fathom that he’s replaceable, that anyone could be as great as he himself is. His inability to state a clear answer to the question says more about his view of the role of Vice President than whether or not Vance is capable. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > – or maybe Trump is a buffoon when it comes to discussing race and racism, and he’s just being his typical buffoonish self. ^ This gets my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/252 "2024-08-01T15:34:15Z")
After all, he has nothing to lose. He could have shouted slurs nonstop and still be applauded. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/253 "2024-08-01T15:39:29Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Unless you put up real physical barriers like turning off the microphone in between questions he will bulldoze through any metaphorical speedbumps. This is how every debate, conference, interview, etc. with trump should be handled-- give him his allotted time to speak, then turn off his mic and let an adult in the room have a say. That way you get less of what happened yesterday: **trump:** I’ve done more for the Black community than any president since Abraham Lincoln! **NABJ panelist:** But what about LBJ and the… **trump:** _ **SINCE ABRAHAM LINCOLN, I SAY!!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/254 "2024-08-01T15:41:25Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I disagree with this. He’d just keep rolling regardless. This. He opened with calling one of the moderators “nasty” (guess the gender) and saying he’s “never” been asked questions in such a “horrible” manner before. And that was under a normal line of questioning. Calling him on his behavior would not create any impediments to his responses. He wouldn’t be taken aback in any way. He’d only repeat the same nonsense again. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/255 "2024-08-01T15:48:20Z")
Anyone else catch the first thing that set ol’ Donny boy off? Being introduced as “Mr. Trump”! ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/256 "2024-08-01T15:50:13Z")
> [@solost](#): > > And trump’s overt, gratuitous hostility was astounding. I didn’t see those panelists being hostile to trump, as he claimed, at all-- they were simply asking pointed, relevant questions of a Presidential candidate…like, the way journalists are _supposed_ to do. The irony is I think this was actually a pretty softball interview. He was permitted to tell multiple lies about the economy, the border, energy, Kamala etc. The toughest question was indeed the opener, but even then, a better person would have seen it as an opportunity to apologize, or flip it to something presidential “I might have made poorly-judged comments in the past, but I’m here because I want to understand the black community better and know what I can do for you and what we can do for America”. It’s only a nasty question because he’s a nasty person standing by his disgusting words and actions. * * * In terms of the “why he did it” question, I think it was overconfidence, from him and his team, following the trifecta of debate, shooting survival, and convention. They genuinely thought he could lay on the charm 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/257 "2024-08-01T15:50:57Z")
Honestly, that’s a reasonable thing to be annoyed by. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/258 "2024-08-01T15:56:08Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Honestly, that’s a reasonable thing to be annoyed by. No, it’s not. Except in his own mind it’s a perfectly proper way to address him. Both using his former title and mister are correct. Now Biden only calling him Donald is meant to annoy him. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/259 "2024-08-01T15:57:43Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He’s also very aware that there are people that hate him Yeah, I think that was settles on July 19th when someone literally took a shot at him. Compared to that the Black lady journalists were going easy on him, but it seems Trump has trouble with people who aren’t his base. > [@Atamasama](#): > > He just figures they’re out **there** , to find that they might be _in the room with him_ is inconceivable. I think he might have been hoping that inside was safer than outside… which it is, on a certain level, but while his base does truly love him I think he’s perhaps been too insulated from those outside the base so the notion that there are people who really don’t like him keeps coming as a shock to the old man. > [@Superdude](#): > > I bit the bullet and read his X posts since then. He’s proudly claiming that he “crushed it.” I thought he wasn’t on Xtwitter anymore, just Truth Social or whatever it is. But hey, thanks for taking one for the team so the rest of us wouldn’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/260 "2024-08-01T15:59:13Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I thought he wasn’t on Xtwitter anymore, just Truth Social or whatever it is. But hey, thanks for taking one for the team so the rest of us wouldn’t have to. He’s not, he hasn’t posted there in a long time, even though he was unbanned. His comment was on Truth Social. (ETA: he has one random 2023 post of his mugshot) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016.md?page=14)