# Trump to attend Black journalists' convention **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 30, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016 "2024-07-30T18:06:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/141 "2024-07-31T23:57:36Z")
Polls are on a different thread ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/142 "2024-07-31T23:59:15Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Fine an anecdotal one-off story. That doesn’t really mean anything. The Republican candidate just went to a black journalists’ convention, and hit the same talking points he’s been using for years now. > > I’m explaining why he is doing this. Here is your explanation: he’s a deeply stupid man who believes his own press releases. He really does believe he’s converting massive numbers of black voters, he believes “the blacks love me”, he’s been to so many scripted events that he forgot what it’s like to face unfriendly interviewers in front of an unfriendly audience. He probably thought that since they’re not white, he’d easily run rings around them. And boy howdy did it show. He played his biggest hits from the 2012-2016 era. It landed horribly, audience mocked him openly. He’s got no way to go to a rally and lick his wounds without going off on some big racist tirade. When you hear hoofbeats, think zebras not horses. Trump walked in front of a bunch of Black people and said a bunch of dumb racist stuff because he’s a stupid man with no fresh material. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/143 "2024-07-31T23:59:39Z")
I really should have gone to dental school… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/144 "2024-08-01T00:00:50Z")
Y’know, it just hit me… could this in part be Trump trying, foolishly, to pull on Harris his old Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas” schtick … except that nobody questions that Harris IS of Black and (Asian) Indian descent. So he tries to do it in the form of _Concern Trolling_ about whether or not she picks and sticks with the identity of the community. Now, sure, Donald Trump is absolutely the wrong person do the “JAQ” game about Black identity. But his “advisors” probably **are** the kind of people who **would** engage in “gatekeeping” about who is “really” Black American. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/145 "2024-08-01T00:01:26Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Polls are on a different thread Then, either please give us a link to that thread, or stop citing them. Making an argument, and assuming that others will take the time to go hunting through your other posts in other threads to find what you wish to cite, is disingenuous, at best. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/146 "2024-08-01T00:01:56Z")
Yipes! My bad. ---
**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/147 "2024-08-01T00:11:13Z")
It is but people do question who is “black”. They think she is generic black, but will she still look out for the interests of Black Americans since she can be confused either way. It’s always been like this in the US as the book points out. I’d guess that his advisors are really tuned in to social media, especially on YouTube. They are hammering Harris and that is the 18-35 demo. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/148 "2024-08-01T00:18:34Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > It is but people do question who is “black”. Do you have links to non right-wing people that are doing this about Kamala Harris? “People” can be _anybody_, so give us some names. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/149 "2024-08-01T00:23:48Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > When you hear hoofbeats, think zebras not horses. Better yet, observe and listen carefully so we won’t miss the zebras. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Trump walked in front of a bunch of Black people and said a bunch of dumb racist stuff because he’s a stupid man with no fresh material. Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t Harris not being Black new material? Either way, putting the racist material in front of a mostly progressive Black audience guarantees maximum attention. That part isn’t stupid. He has to take the spotlight away from Harris, and this generated above the fold headlines. Could it be that Trump has finally gone too far, and now is a defective horse rather than a clever political zebra? Um, well, given that he won after the Obama birth certificate thing — it seems unlikely. But I hope I am proven wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/150 "2024-08-01T00:24:22Z")
> [@split\_p\_j](#): > > I’d guess that his advisors are really tuned in to social media, especially on YouTube. They are hammering Harris and that is the 18-35 demo. I’d guess that his advisor is Stephen Miller. This _theory_ you have is a racist’s idea of what resonates with the Black community. > [@split\_p\_j](#): > > Polls are on a different thread Reminds me of my girlfriend when I was in 7th grade. You’ve never met her. She goes to a different school. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/151 "2024-08-01T00:28:48Z")
Kamala’s speaking right now about Trump. “The same old show, divisiveness and disrespect.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/152 "2024-08-01T00:30:59Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Reminds me of my girlfriend when I was in 7th grade. You’ve never met her. She goes to a different school. In Canada? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/153 "2024-08-01T00:32:56Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Either he thought this would go well and help him or he really doesn’t want to win. It went so well Trump’s team decided to end the interview 25 minutes early. > [@Horatius](#): > > I imagine that for every vote he gains, he convinces one unlikely voter to get out and vote for Harris. “You aren’t Black enough” is still a racist attack, and I can’t see blatant racism being an overall winning strategy in the Black community. I can’t imagine him gaining even one vote for every person he motivates to vote against him. I just can’t see this being anything but a net loss for Trump. He’s not going to gain more racists votes from this, he’s likely to lose some of the black votes he did have, and I bet this only serves to motivate more people to vote against him. > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Could it be that Trump has finally gone too far, and now is a defective horse rather than a clever political zebra? Um, well, given that he won after the Obama birth certificate thing — it seems unlikely. But I hope I am proven wrong. I gave up on thinking anything Trump says can end his political career back in 2016. As bad as I think this is for Trump, I sure can’t point to it as say for sure it’ll knock him out of the race. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/154 "2024-08-01T00:34:05Z")
How many feet of rope did he take today? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/155 "2024-08-01T00:43:12Z")
You can hear one man yell “Have you no shame?!?!” from the back. Yeah, I think that is never a good sign. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/156 "2024-08-01T00:44:01Z")
That’s a question we all already know the answer to. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/157 "2024-08-01T00:54:51Z")
Trump complained that he was invited under “false pretenses” because Harris wasn’t there. This was no 4D-chess “I’ll insult the black people and my fans will eat it up” move. This was his standard egotism falling apart the second he was questioned. He fully expected them to shower him with praise about how he’s done more for “the blacks” than anyone ever and when that didn’t happen he threw a tantrum. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/158 "2024-08-01T01:06:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump complained that he was invited under “false pretenses” because Harris was also there. You mean she _wasn’t_ there. Trump was probably told (truthfully) that both were invited, but Harris clearly wasn’t able to make it for whatever reason. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/159 "2024-08-01T01:07:05Z")
Right. Fixed my comment. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016/160 "2024-08-01T01:09:36Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Either way, putting the racist material in front of a mostly progressive Black audience guarantees maximum attention. That part isn’t stupid. He has to take the spotlight away from Harris, and this generated above the fold headlines. Having a strategy doesn’t make you a strategist any more than having a thought makes you a thinker. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-attend-black-journalists-convention/1005016.md?page=9)