# Trump to be nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 21, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948 "2025-06-21T20:14:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > It makes him crazy that Obama got a Nobel. He’s obsessed by it. And when he doesn’t win one, he’ll be telling the world what a meaningless nothing the Nobel Prize is.
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> I saw someone say (and I know this isn’t a thing) that they should give it to Obama again, just to piss off Trump

Anyone remember the 2011 White House Correspondents Association Dinner during which Obama joked about the tough decisions Trump made as the host of The Apprentice. Trump was clearly _pissed_.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/42 "2025-07-01T15:07:57Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Anyone remember the 2011 White House Correspondents Association Dinner during which Obama joked about the tough decisions Trump made as the host of The Apprentice. Trump was clearly _pissed_.

If looks could have killed. The man has no normal sense of humor unless it involves others’ misfortunes.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
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Supposedly that event was a factor in him running for president.

And, yes, he is unable to laugh at himself.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> So when you say this, you don’t actually care if it’s true.

No, I mean I’m not hear to obey the orders you seem to believe you have the authority to dictate.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/45 "2025-07-01T16:09:58Z")

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Here’s a list of the Nobel Peace Prize winners. Which ones do you consider to be promulgators of mass murder? There are some, but it’s not remotely half of them:

> **[List of Nobel Peace Prize laureates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates)**
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> The Norwegian Nobel Committee awards the Nobel Peace Prize annually "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." As dictated by Alfred Nobel's will, the award is administered by the Norwegian Nobel Committee and awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Parliament of Norway.
> Each recipient receives a medal, a diploma, and a monet...

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/46 "2025-07-01T16:14:43Z")

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Honestly it only takes one to seriously mar the award imo.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/47 "2025-07-01T16:18:35Z")

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So you took a sardonic comment clearly intended to metaphorically illustrate that the Nobel Peace Prize is often awarded for reasons that have little to do with peace and somehow feel justified in ordering me to literally provide a mathematical proof of its absolute truth?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/48 "2025-07-01T16:28:28Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Regarding the nominations being secret, ISTM that means pretty much anyone can _say_ they nominated him without actually doing so, right? I wouldn’t be surprised if tons of RW politicians will suck up to him by telling him they nominated him.

Eh, what would be the point? They can nominate him, and there’s no more cost to actually doing so than there would be to lying and then not doing it. And even among the throngs of self-serving weasels, there have to be a few True Believers.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
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Would a [“No Prize”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_No-Prize?wprov=sfti1) suffice?

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/50 "2025-07-01T17:24:42Z")

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I think the first rule of Nobel Prize Club should be that anyone who publicly announces that they “deserve” a Nobel Prize will never ever be awarded one.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
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The “VLADIMIR, STOP!” Peace Prize is awarded in recognition of performative bluster masquerading as conflict resolution.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/52 "2025-07-01T19:14:57Z")

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TIL I can nominate people for the Nobel Peace Prize! There are other Dopers who can, too.

Who, or rather, whom, should we nominate?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/53 "2025-07-01T19:19:30Z")

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The White Stripes.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
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Is that in order of preference?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/55 "2025-07-01T19:32:33Z")

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> [@Kropotkin](#):
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> Who, or rather, whom, should we nominate?

Ed Zotti!

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/56 "2025-07-01T19:32:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Trump can’t nominate himself, but Vance or Boebert or Noem or plenty of other people could.

So what are the criteria for being on the list able to nominate? From your three examples I guessing there is but one: Breathing.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/57 "2025-07-01T19:47:35Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> metaphorically

What’s the point in doing anything metaphorically? All you’re saying is that the Nobel Peace Prize isn’t as good as it should be. It’s not true that half of the time it’s wrong. All of the Nobel Prize categories are flawed. They have lots of the standard flaws. They don’t award prizes to women, blacks, or non-European ancestry people as much as they should. They are awarded too much to people at European and and North American institutions and not enough to those at other parts of the world. They are awarded only to the person in the higher academic position and not to the one below them in that university who did the more important work. There are various people who are clearly at the top of their fields who haven’t won a prize. The fact that they can only award the prize to three people a year means that frequently they fail to award it to someone who was just as important as the three who won it. All the Nobel Prize categories aren’t very good. Everyone should consider the Nobel Prizes as being like the Oscars. They’re interesting to look at once a year but not worth considering in the long term as the best choices for any sort of greatness.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> So what are the criteria for being on the list able to nominate? From your three examples I guessing there is but one: Breathing.

From the Nobel Peace Prize website:

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> According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories, a personal application for an award will not be considered:
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> 1. Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of state
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> 2. Members of The International Court of Justice in The Hague and The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague
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> 3. Members of l’Institut de Droit International
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> 4. Members of the International Board of the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom
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> 5. University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes
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> 6. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
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> 7. Members of the main board of directors or its equivalent of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
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> 8. Current and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee (proposals by current members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after 1 February)
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> 9. Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> So what are the criteria for being on the list able to nominate? From your three examples I guessing there is but one: Breathing.

@Railer13 already posted the criteria in [post 21](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-to-be-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/1019948/23). Basically, it’s any university professor in a variety of fields, any holder of high government office in any nation, and the members of a few specific international organizations. Boebert is a “member of a national assembly”, and Vance and Noem are “ministers or cabinet members”. Trump himself, as a head of state, could also make nominations, for anyone but himself.

I mean, none of those people should be in any sort of high government position, but they are.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> What’s the point in doing anything metaphorically?

What is the point in continuing to hassle me about this and demand I answer to your satisfaction? If you have a problem with me, take it up in **The Pit** or else knock it off.

Stranger

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