# Trump voters are most of the people upset about staying at home **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 19, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134 "2020-04-19T18:37:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/81 "2020-04-21T22:53:07Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > **So, in lieu of a vaccine, we went to social distancing and shut-downs, which as many point out we don’t do for the flu. Even with that, covid-19 killed more Americans in _six weeks_ than flu did in all of last year.** > > I’m not saying I was opposed to social distancing. The two extremes wanted either enough months of social distancing to elect Biden or ZERO social distancing. I tend to be in the middle, where the President is. So far, he has been right all along and I trust his judgement. > > **[COLOR=“Blue”]As I said in my prior post - the puts us on track for around 350,000 covid-19 deaths by next February, which means it will be the third most common cause of death in the US. That from a disease that didn’t even exist last year.**[/COLOR] Who are you quoting here? We go by names, not by colors. Are you quoting one person or two? Which people? I find this strange because the board software automatically provides quote tags, so you must be going to the trouble of replacing them. Why? It just makes your posts open to confusion and misunderstanding. At least you’re not using colors that mess with my colorblindness. That would be REALLY annoying. > [@Reason10](#): > > Could have been a lot worse if a Democrat had been in office and not shut down flights from China and then Europe. It could have been a million, easily. Trump didn’t shut down flights from China. He barred Chinese nationals from entering the US. Then he let American citizens who returned go back into the general population without requiring them to actually quarantine. Ditto for the post-Europe shut-down. This led to returning citizens who were infected but asymptomatic to seed new infections here in this country. I’ll also point out that with the US today at 800,000+ infections we are well on the way to hitting 1,000,000 and will certainly reach that number soon. > [@Reason10](#): > > And again, I haven’t been opposed to what has happened up to now. The President has been right about everything and I trust his judgment. Nope. He’s been wrong on quite a bit. I’d have more respect for him if he was capable of admitting error but he isn’t. Yet another personality flaw. > [@Reason10](#): > > But it wasn’t because of Trump’s policies. Nobody said it was. > [@Reason10](#): > > And if you liberals think you’ll be able to blame Trump for this economy in November, you’re going to look like idiots. Right now, this economy is about on the level of the Obama disaster. And nobody wants to go back to that. Actually, my situation improved during the Obama years… perhaps yours didn’t. For me personally it was far from a disaster. Regardless, our current situation is far worse than anything under Obama. This is going to make the Great Recession look like a minor blip. Anyhow - no one is blaming Trump for the current pandemic-induced crash. He certainly could be held responsible for how the government does or doesn’t deal with between now and November, which is only proper. > [@Reason10](#): > > > [@broomstick](#): > > > > Whether we stay on lockdown or open up wide and get even more deaths it doesn’t matter, the US economy has crashed. > > The economy has not crashed. That’s like saying the disastrous Obama economy was a crash. We’re not even close to a crash. That’s just flat out ridiculous. We’re looking at Great Depression levels of economic problems. Hey, if you’re in denial about reality there’s nothing more I can do or say. > [@Reason10](#): > > And some businesses (Like Walmart) are making a bundle in all this. No, they’re really not. Sure, more money is coming in but they are also having to spend more, from purchasing more cleaning supplies for the stores, hiring more staff to replace those who become sick as well as those who die, more costs for training new staff, increased costs if they have started offering paid medical leave or pay for covid-19 testing for their staff… > [@Reason10](#): > > I wish I had owned toilet paper stock because Charmin and Angel Soft are flying off the shelves. Please research an industry before you purchase stock in it. The toilet paper factories were optimized for a certain level of production and were pretty much running 24/7 before this started. There isn’t any reserve capability and by the time new production lines can be built the pandemic - and increased demand - will probably be over. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/82 "2020-04-21T22:56:14Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > **I would take it to mean that you’re unaware that Hong Kong is a different place from China.** > > What does that have to do with the subject of the thread? We’re all wondering that, too. You know, if you have to explain a “joke” it means it’s not very funny. > [@Reason10](#): > > See, THIS is why liberals are so much fun to trigger. They come completely unglued. You’re peeing your pants because I came up with a pun for the coronavirus. We’re all laughing are asses off. What’s this “we” you are talking about? Are you pregnant? Royalty? I find it puzzling that you think we’re coming “unglued”, much less incontinent. Puzzled, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/83 "2020-04-21T23:14:06Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > **I would take it to mean that you’re unaware that Hong Kong is a different place from China.** > > What does that have to do with the subject of the thread? This is a location for fighting ignorance, regardless of the thread in particular. The people in Hong Kong were spared from Communism for a hundred years, had a free market, made billions of dollars creating action films - popularizing kung fu - were and are complete allies of the United States, and want China to be pushed back, so that they can be a free market democracy. Let’s say, for example, that England conquers Ireland, treats its people horribly for a few hundred years, a potato famine happens - killing millions - which the English laugh about and ignore. During this period, you show up and try to insult the English by calling them a bunch of “leprechaun lovers”. Does that make sense in any way? Does it somehow make more sense because England owns Ireland? Do you believe that you come across as a person who knows what he is talking about and has a good grasp on what’s going on in the real world? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/84 "2020-04-21T23:20:06Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > **… > Covid-19 is expected to kill 60k** with massive and unprecedented social distancing measures\*\*. \*\* > … Covid-19 has killed 30.000 Americans in about a month and a half. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/85 "2020-04-21T23:26:50Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > So far, he has been the most decent president since Reagan. He understands more than you liberals can possible fathom. And he has put AMERICA first. He hasn’t wiped his ass on the Constitution like his predecessor. > > He is likely the greatest and most intelligent president in the history of America. > [@Reason10](#): > > The President has been right about everything and I trust his judgment. Has he? Let’s take a look: January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.” February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.” February 5: HHS Secretary Azar requested $2 billion to buy respirator masks & other supplies for the national stockpile Trump cut that request by 75% February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.” February 25: “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.” February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.” February 26: “We’re going very substantially down, not up.” February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” February 28: “We’re ordering a lot of supplies. We’re ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn’t be ordering unless it was something like this. But we’re ordering a lot of different elements of medical.” March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?” March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.” March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.” March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!” March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.” March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.” March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.” March 6: “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault.” March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.” March 9: “This blindsided the world.” March 9: "The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant.” March 10: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” March 13: National Emergency Declaration March 15: “It’s a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something we have tremendous control of.” March 19: “And we’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately, and that’s where the FDA has been so great. They — they’ve gone through the approval process. It’s been approved.” March 19: FDA “Chrloroquine has not been approved for use against COVID-19.” March 23rd: “You look at automobile accidents, which are far greater than any numbers we’re talking about. That doesn’t mean we’re going to tell everybody no more driving of cars. So we have to do things to get our country open.” (Fatal car accidents aren’t doubling every two days) * * * Yeah, I know you and 63M of your MAGAcult buddies think this is what success looks like. But to those of us who don’t have our heads shoved up Trump’s ass, this has been an unmitigated disaster. And that’s just the past few months. The past 3+ years is further proof that the pathological lying sociopath isn’t fit to shovel shit from one place to another. But you are free to swallow all the lies you like. Just stop wasting everybody else’s time with this bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/86 "2020-04-21T23:37:32Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > How Sam can engage in bothsiderism without blushing as one side is actively cackling about triggering libs is beyond me. The people cackling about ‘triggering libs’ during a pandemic are also assholes. That doesn’t mean the other side should play, but of course they do, as evidenced by many threads on this board. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/87 "2020-04-21T23:55:00Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > He is likely the greatest and most intelligent president in the history of America. Wow. I think you and I reside in different realities. I don’t think he was even the most intelligent person in the scenes he filmed for Home Alone 2. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/88 "2020-04-21T23:56:36Z")
It isn’t clear yet whether relaxing the lockdown regulations now is the right thing to do. There are still hot spots that are very active and some that are going to get worse before they get better. Letting a small community in some backwater town in the middle of nowhere return to normal now is not going to stimulate the economy or save it from the damage already suffered. It may lift local moral a bit but it will be short lived because either they will expose themselves to an outbreak or they will remain prisoners of their county because nothing else around them is open and no one will do business with them until everyone feels safe doing so. It’s too early to know what the right thing to do is, on what scale and where to begin. We don’t yet know enough about the extent of the damage opening now might cause because we don’t yet have a full understanding of the impact thus far. The prudent thing to do in this moment in time is to wait it out a little longer. End of May according to many states. Then re-evaluate again with more available information. To do what Georgia just did is the height of irresponsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/89 "2020-04-22T00:03:05Z")
I just listened to the Mayor of Las Vegas say that because she assumes that _everyone_ has been exposed to Covid-19 already she wants to completely open up the town. My personal opinion is that if this happens this country is fucked. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/90 "2020-04-22T00:04:33Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > \*\*… > > Covid-19 is expected to kill 60k\*\* with massive and unprecedented social distancing measures\*\*. \*\* > > … Covid 19 isn’t “expected” to any fucking thing. It’s new. We haven’t fucking experienced it before, and its devastation hasn’t yet peaked in America. “Expected to” What the fuck? Is this bullshit in the Pit yet? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/91 "2020-04-22T00:06:32Z")
Reason10 got the ban hammer. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/92 "2020-04-22T00:09:06Z")
> [@Reason10](#): > > So far, he has been the most decent president since Reagan. He understands more than you liberals can possible fathom. And he has put AMERICA first. He hasn’t wiped his ass on the Constitution like his predecessor. > > He is likely the greatest and most intelligent president in the history of America. _ **“I know South Korea better than anybody,” Trump said. “It’s a very tight - do you know how many people are in Seoul? Do you know how big the city of Seoul is? 38 million people. That’s bigger than anything we have.”** _ Seoul actually only has a population of 10m. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/93 "2020-04-22T00:14:41Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Reason10 got the ban hammer. That was one of the few predictable things to happen this week. Apparently he was aiming at the “libruls” and triggered a mod by mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/94 "2020-04-22T00:47:44Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > _ **“I know South Korea better than anybody,” Trump said. “It’s a very tight - do you know how many people are in Seoul? Do you know how big the city of Seoul is? 38 million people. That’s bigger than anything we have.”** _ > > Seoul actually only has a population of 10m. And its elevation is 38m. Trump: the most easily befuddled president since Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/95 "2020-04-22T23:51:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I just listened to the Mayor of Las Vegas say that because she assumes that _everyone_ has been exposed to Covid-19 already she wants to completely open up the town. My personal opinion is that if this happens this country is fucked. [Watch, listen and shudder.](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04/22/las-vegas-mayor-says-free-enterprise-will-allow-restaurants-to-reopen-safely/24071665/) She says that “free enterprise” will protect everyone. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/96 "2020-04-23T19:05:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I just listened to the Mayor of Las Vegas say that because she assumes that _everyone_ has been exposed to Covid-19 already she wants to completely open up the town. My personal opinion is that if this happens this country is fucked. New York is only at about 13%. [https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows) It’s unlikely that Las Vegas is higher than that. They have a good distance that they can still climb, if they take the brakes off. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134/97 "2020-04-23T19:35:25Z")
It’s official: [protesters and certain political figures are more irresponsible than Juggalos](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/2020-gathering-of-the-juggalos-canceled-covid-19-988696/). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-are-most-of-the-people-upset-about-staying-at-home/852134.md?page=4)