# Trump voters disqualifying themselves? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 4, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638 "2016-11-04T20:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/1 "2016-11-04T20:14:00Z")
How big of a factor could this be on election day? > **[Texas man arrested after wearing Trump hat, shirt to vote](https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Electioneering-violation-leads-to-arrest-10418085.php)** > > Man who allegedly refused to remove partisan political shirt was charged in Comal... I could see this being a big deal for all these Trump rally people that are not familiar with the voting process. And then you have the registration factor, it would not surprise me if many Trump supporters go to the polls without being registered. Heck I just saw Trump talking about people standing in line to vote wearing their Trump hats and gear and he seemed to think it was great! Apparently he’s unaware of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/2 "2016-11-04T20:33:28Z")
I suspect that the vast majority of people who go to the polls while wearing “electioneering” shirts or hats or whatever will simply comply with the rules when informed of them, rather than refusing and escalating the conflict until they end up getting arrested. So … I can’t see this being a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/3 "2016-11-04T20:44:08Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > How big of a factor could this be on election day? > > [http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Electioneering-violation-leads-to-arrest-10418085.php](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Electioneering-violation-leads-to-arrest-10418085.php) > > I could see this being a big deal for all these Trump rally people that are not familiar with the voting process. And then you have the registration factor, it would not surprise me if many Trump supporters go to the polls without being registered. > > Heck I just saw Trump talking about people standing in line to vote wearing their Trump hats and gear and he seemed to think it was great! Apparently he’s unaware of the problem. When Trump was talking about people voting multiple times–at the same place–I wondered whether he’d ever actually, personally _voted._ ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/4 "2016-11-04T20:50:06Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > I suspect that the vast majority of people who go to the polls while wearing “electioneering” shirts or hats or whatever will simply comply with the rules when informed of them, rather than refusing and escalating the conflict until they end up getting arrested. So … I can’t see this being a big deal. Maybe but that may be difficult for some people who don’t want to flip their shirt inside out or go home to change outfits. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/5 "2016-11-04T20:52:02Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > Heck I just saw Trump talking about people standing in line to vote wearing their Trump hats and gear and he seemed to think it was great! Apparently he’s unaware of the problem. It should be noted that “passive electioneering”–voters simply wearing candidate or party shirts, badges, etc.–into polling places, is perfectly legal in many states. You can’t hang around like that, inside or by the door, or start talking to other voters, but you can wait in line, cast your vote, and go. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/6 "2016-11-04T20:54:21Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > Maybe but that may be difficult for some people who don’t want to flip their shirt inside out or go home to change outfits. Then they should have thought of that before going to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/7 "2016-11-04T20:56:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/8 "2016-11-04T21:07:29Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > It should be noted that “passive electioneering”–voters simply wearing candidate or party shirts, badges, etc.–into polling places, is perfectly legal in many states. You can’t hang around like that, inside or by the door, or start talking to other voters, but you can wait in line, cast your vote, and go. Smart voters will know the rules in their state. [Here in Texas:](https://www.texastribune.org/2016/10/28/texplainer-can-i-wear-my-campaign-gear-polls/) > [@](#): > > While your campaign shirts, hats, socks and buttons look great during a trip to the mall, leave them at home when you head to the polls. > > You could be turned away from voting in Texas if you’re sporting your campaign gear, according to Alicia Pierce, a spokeswoman for the Texas Secretary of State’s office. > > “You’re not allowed to electioneer at the polls,” Pierce said. “That would obviously include things like campaign T-shirts or a hat.” Trump voters? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/9 "2016-11-04T21:34:29Z")
I hear ya. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/10 "2016-11-04T21:37:31Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Trump voters? Will scream about repression of their rights and lie about seeing people wearing “Hillary For Prez” t-shirts manning the voting booths. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/11 "2016-11-04T21:45:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Will scream about repression of their rights and lie about seeing people wearing “Hillary For Prez” t-shirts manning the voting booths. You’d think with all the cell phones, there’d be at least one picture. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/12 "2016-11-04T22:37:56Z")
Samsung and Apple are part of the global pro-Hillary conspiracy. I mean, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/13 "2016-11-04T23:34:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You’d think with all the cell phones, there’d be at least one picture. [you’d think right?](https://xkcd.com/1235/) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/14 "2016-11-05T02:17:47Z")
Yeah, but your not allowed to bring your phone into some (most?) polling places either. No pix = no evidence. It’s all part of the massive conspiracy to steal the election right out from under the Trumpon’s noses. Or at least that’s what many of them will think. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/15 "2016-11-05T05:23:37Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Yeah, but your not allowed to bring your phone into some (most?) polling places either. Where? I know several states have unenforced laws on the books prohibiting photographs of ballots, but I’ve never heard of one where they ban voters from simply _possessing_ a phone in the room. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/16 "2016-11-05T06:54:05Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > Maybe but that may be difficult for some people who don’t want to flip their shirt inside out or go home to change outfits. We had a young lady come to our precinct to vote wearing a McCain sweatshirt. The election judges told her she had to cover it or turn it inside out or something. She chose to just remove it. But she was wearing nothing underneath it. And she was a healthy, well developed Minnesota girl. Caused quite a stir in the precinct. The young man handing out the ‘privacy folders’ to conceal your ballots looked up at her and got so flustered he forgot the rest of his spiel. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/17 "2016-11-05T08:53:34Z")
Well, I guess that’s one way to get out the vote… ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/18 "2016-11-05T09:20:12Z")
At least there was no doubt she was “of age”! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/19 "2016-11-05T10:59:56Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Smart voters will know the rules in their state. Yeah, but this is the sort of down-in-the-weeds stuff that I bet most habitual voters don’t know, let alone people who only sometimes vote. I don’t know what the law is in Maryland about wearing clothing with partisan messages when voting, even though this will be my tenth election here. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638/20 "2016-11-05T14:02:07Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Where? I know several states have unenforced laws on the books prohibiting photographs of ballots, but I’ve never heard of one where they ban voters from simply _possessing_ a phone in the room. [Here](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ballot-selfies-allowed-42995941) is a list focusing on the “ballot selfie” idea. Even if own-ballot photography is allowed, phone conversations and photos of other people will nearly always be frowned upon. Nobody will know if you have a silent phone in your pocket, of course, but you’ll typically be told to put it away if you take it out, or turn it off if it rings. If someone gets to the point of having a paper ballot in hand or a touchscreen in front of them, they have already checked in, so if they were to be uncooperative, it certainly could be enforced. My precinct gave one name to police on the first day of early voting, but that guy was both taking pictures and being a loud jerk about the process on general. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-disqualifying-themselves/770638.md?page=2)