# Trump voters: explain yourselves **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699 "2016-09-24T03:24:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/501 "2016-10-15T21:29:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Nothing really wrong with the staff he has now, save that he doesn’t listen to them. Who is competent on his staff now besides KellyAnne Conway? Plus, arguing that Trump will do fine because he’ll have a good staff, but is flaming out now because he doesn’t listen to his staff isn’t too consistent, is it? His set of advisors is not too hot also. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/502 "2016-10-15T21:34:00Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Not really. It’s more of a ‘How can you vote for a woman who won’t stand up for herself?’ > > And she wants to stand up to the world? > > She’s been married to a sexual abuser and assaultant for years. I don’t see the feminists against her or that, I see them against Trump. > > Fucking Hell. Somehow I think the first woman candidate for President from a major party can stand up for herself quite well. Curious if you support the sanctity of marriage. If you do, Hillary stands for it a lot more than Trump - 3 wives and counting, and cheating in public. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/503 "2016-10-15T21:53:17Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Somehow I think the first woman candidate for President from a major party can stand up for herself quite well. > Curious if you support the sanctity of marriage. If you do, Hillary stands for it a lot more than Trump - 3 wives and counting, and cheating in public. As you well know, it’s not about her marriage. If she wants to stay with a philanderer, that’s her business. But to the degree that she knew of his assaults, that’s another. And one thing that falls squarely on her shoulders is how she treated the women who were victims of sexual assault. Guess she finds it easy to make claims about victims of sexual assault needing to be heard and believed and supported—then do the exact opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/504 "2016-10-15T22:47:48Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > What he said: [I Can’t Stand Donald Trump. But I’m Voting for Him.](https://medium.com/@tgiovanetti/i-cant-stand-donald-trump-but-i-m-voting-for-him-d4738ee5812e#.us8wftp5v) I saw some flaws in his presentation and responded. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/505 "2016-10-15T23:16:58Z")
So, local Trump supporters, what are you doing, or will you do, to fight the international globalist conspiracy your candidate is forcefully talking about these days? How rigged is the upcoming election? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/506 "2016-10-15T23:28:48Z")
Also, please explain why those who dislike Trump are wrong for not trusting him with exclusive authority over the nation’s nuclear arsenal. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/507 "2016-10-15T23:57:09Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > As you well know, it’s not about her marriage. If she wants to stay with a philanderer, that’s her business. But to the degree that she knew of his assaults, that’s another. And one thing that falls squarely on her shoulders is how she treated the women who were victims of sexual assault. Guess she finds it easy to make claims about victims of sexual assault needing to be heard and believed and supported—then do the exact opposite. Using the Trump standard of proof, those women are all liars. I mean, look at them. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/508 "2016-10-16T00:03:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Nothing really wrong with the staff he has now, save that he doesn’t listen to them. There’s plenty wrong, and he does listen to them. The global conspiracy he’s touting is straight out of the mind of his campaign manager, the former Breitbart guy. Not to mention his inner circle of Giuliani, Christie, and his sleazy sons. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/509 "2016-10-16T00:44:23Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > As you well know, it’s not about her marriage. If she wants to stay with a philanderer, that’s her business. But to the degree that she knew of his assaults, that’s another. And one thing that falls squarely on her shoulders is how she treated the women who were victims of sexual assault. Guess she finds it easy to make claims about victims of sexual assault needing to be heard and believed and supported—then do the exact opposite. I keep seeing Fox and Conway talking about how mean Hillary was to Bill’s consorts, but I have not yet actually seen or heard what she specifically said or did. Do you have an example, (as opposed to a Hannity or Conway claim)? I recall her saying that there was a vast Right Wing conspiracy, (which appears to have had a certain amount of truth to it), but I do not recall her being quoted in the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, or elsewhere publicly describing any of Bill’s accusers as tramps, hos, gold-diggers, or other nasty names. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/510 "2016-10-16T02:39:35Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > What he said: [I Can’t Stand Donald Trump. But I’m Voting for Him.](https://medium.com/@tgiovanetti/i-cant-stand-donald-trump-but-i-m-voting-for-him-d4738ee5812e#.us8wftp5v) > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I saw some flaws in his presentation and responded. The blogger replied to my comments, which I wrote carefully and did my best to avoid anything overtly hostile, though of course that’s an eye-of-the-beholder issue: > [@](#): > > It’s a blog entry, dude. It’s not a comprehensive policy paper listing everything wrong with Hillary, the ACA, etc. Don’t bash someone for what they haven’t said. > If you are just dying to know my thoughts on every conceivable policy topic I’m pretty widely indexed on the internet. Can’t do it all in a single Medium post. Kind of whiny, I think. Passive-aggressive, even. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/511 "2016-10-16T03:25:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It’s a stupid reason _to you._ The guy, like many of us, is weighing the pros and cons of Trump and what he says he wants to do with the pros and cons of Clinton and what she says she wants to do. That’s all there is to it. I agree that a vote for Trump is smart if your’e a bigoted asshole. If you’re not a bigoted asshole, it’s incredibly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/512 "2016-10-16T03:39:50Z")
I don’t know if this was posted yet but seeing all of this hate (spread over race, sex, a person and more) had me in tears and fear. From now until election day I will be carrying my ID … just because I am dark complected. > **['Hang the B\*tch!' 'F\*g!' 'N\*gger!': Uncensored Rally Videos Expose Donald...](https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2016/08/_hang_the_b_tch_f_g_n_gger_uncensored_video_of_trump_rallies_exposes_culture_he_s_created/)** > > What's It Like to Be at a Trump Rally? Here It Is, Uncensored. This was shared on FB: scroll down and start the video. This actually made me cry since people I know and love and I know they love me have been on Trump’s wagon. It scares me like I’m watching a “how-to” become a Nazi while being oblivious. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/513 "2016-10-16T09:05:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > There’s no need to “make up” anything, he’s spent decades demonstrating how horrific a person he is. To some extent, kinda. Not really. Why does your side make up and exaggerate what he’s said? If what you’re saying is true, his comments alone are the worst, leave them at that. Instead, I read election topics that flat out say ‘Let’s make up shit about the orangutan. Holy shit this is fun!’ That was my point. I see I wasn’t the most obvious about it. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/514 "2016-10-16T09:06:13Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Somehow I think the first woman candidate for President from a major party can stand up for herself quite well. > Curious if you support the sanctity of marriage. If you do, Hillary stands for it a lot more than Trump - 3 wives and counting, and cheating in public. She’s only doing what a woman should do? Yikes. I don’t think your side agrees with that idea. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/515 "2016-10-16T09:26:06Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > To some extent, kinda. Not really. > > Why does your side make up and exaggerate what he’s said? It doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/516 "2016-10-16T09:29:53Z")
Sure it does. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/517 "2016-10-16T09:46:39Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Sure it does. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164) Random people on the Internet having a casual conversation isn’t “our side”, it’s random people on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/518 "2016-10-16T11:39:01Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Sure it does. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164) Ah, this will save me some time you’re already here. HeweyLogan you are a cretinous ignorant idiot. If Obama declared the sun would rise tomorrow you’d say he was wrong. People like you are the reason why politics in the US is in such a toxic state. Grow up and educate yourself before you try and talk politics with adults. You have the mindset of a 5 year old, you throw a tantrum and smash all your toys, then cry and blame someone else because they can’t be magically fixed. Yes this is an analogy but I’m sure you’re too stupid to work out what it’s about. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/519 "2016-10-16T12:08:41Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I keep seeing Fox and Conway talking about how mean Hillary was to Bill’s consorts, but I have not yet actually seen or heard what she specifically said or did. Do you have an example, (as opposed to a Hannity or Conway claim)? > I recall her saying that there was a vast Right Wing conspiracy, (which appears to have had a certain amount of truth to it), but I do not recall her being quoted in the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, or elsewhere publicly describing any of Bill’s accusers as tramps, hos, gold-diggers, or other nasty names. I was thinking about writing an almost identical post a few hours ago. As far as I can tell, the only thing they have on her, other than accusations from women suing Bill, is that she mounted what appears to be a standard legal defense of a man accused of molesting a woman, after being appointed by the court as his attorney. The right is all over her for defending a criminal, which is pretty much what defense attorneys do. It’s very probable, although I haven’t seen direct quotes, that she spoke disparagingly of Monica and others who had affairs with her husband, knowing full well that he was married. Hard to blame her for that. If there’s more, other than the blatherings of the likes of Hannity, Rush, and Ann Coulter, I’d be very interested to read it. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/520 "2016-10-16T23:20:40Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Sure it does. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805164) Do yourself a favor and never read any YouTube comments. Your little brain will explode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699.md?page=27)