# Trump voters: explain yourselves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699 "2016-09-24T03:24:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/561 "2016-10-19T16:48:09Z")

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You don’t even have to go anywhere to get educated, that machine right in front of you can educate the living shit out of you! Hell, don’t even have to go to Baylor! Most likely, be better if you don’t!

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**Author:** ![Waco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/edb3f5/32.png) [@Waco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waco)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/562 "2016-10-19T16:53:29Z")

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But that doesn’t mean I’m morally superior to all the millions who voted against Obama.  
It just means I preferred Obama as President.

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**Author:** ![Waco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/edb3f5/32.png) [@Waco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waco)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/563 "2016-10-19T17:00:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You don’t even have to go anywhere to get educated, that machine right in front of you can educate the living shit out of you! Hell, don’t even have to go to Baylor! Most likely, be better if you don’t!

I don’t know about that. Baylor College of Medicine is well known in the Texas Medical Center in Houston. Getting educated is one thing, being exposed to propaganda, is quite another thing.  
Whether it’s Fox News, MSNBC,Salon or Huffington Post, it’s all presented with a spin.  
The age of Walter Cronkite is, sadly, over.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/564 "2016-10-19T17:48:44Z")

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> [@Waco](#):
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> But that doesn’t mean I’m morally superior to all the millions who voted against Obama.  
> It just means I preferred Obama as President.

And I bet you were a member of the “Democrat” Party, too!  
Pull the other one, Uncle Waco. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Vicsage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e68b1a/32.png) [@Vicsage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vicsage)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/565 "2016-10-19T18:13:16Z")

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It seems both Larry Flynt (Hustler Magazine) and Howard Stern have come out condemning Trumps treatment and attitudes toward women. I feel like I’m on Bizarro World.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/566 "2016-10-19T18:26:31Z")

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> [@Vicsage](#):
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> It seems both Larry Flynt (Hustler Magazine) and Howard Stern have come out condemning Trumps treatment and attitudes toward women. I feel like I’m on Bizarro World.

I don’t think they’ve ever advocated or bragged about non-consensual behavior.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/567 "2016-10-19T18:31:35Z")

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> [@Vicsage](#):
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> It seems both Larry Flynt (Hustler Magazine) and Howard Stern have come out condemning Trumps treatment and attitudes toward women. I feel like I’m on Bizarro World.

Besides this being a nut pick, AFAIK both Flint and Stern are not known for being predators or forcing themselves over women. Of course it is much harder for Flynt.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/568 "2016-10-19T18:37:30Z")

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> [@Waco](#):
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> But that doesn’t mean I’m morally superior to all the millions who voted against Obama…

Obama wasn’t running against Trump; Hillary is. I think it’s fine to feel morally superior this time.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/569 "2016-10-19T18:57:42Z")

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> [@Waco](#):
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> Voted for Obama twice.

In what year?

Ha! Zing! Voter fraud burn!

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/570 "2016-10-19T19:04:53Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Besides this being a **nut pick** , AFAIK both Flint and Stern are not known for being predators or forcing themselves over women. Of course it is much harder for Flynt.

That a very fortuitous typo there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/571 "2016-10-19T19:10:23Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Besides this being a \*\*nut \*\*pick, AFAIK both Flint and Stern are not known for being predators or forcing themselves over women. Of course it is much harder for Flynt.

This works on so many levels 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/572 "2016-10-19T19:23:34Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Besides this being a nut pick, AFAIK both Flint and Stern are not known for being predators or forcing themselves over women. Of course it is much harder for Flynt.

That’s just not how he rolls.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/573 "2016-10-19T19:31:28Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> That a very fortuitous typo there. 🙂

Not a typo:

> **[Nutpicking](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nutpicking)**
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> Nutpicking is the fallacious tactic of picking out and showcasing the nuttiest member(s) of a group as the best representative(s) of that group — hence, "picking the nut".

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> The word is a portmanteau of “nut” and “nitpicking,” which was coined by Mother Jones blogger Kevin Drum (thus it’s sometimes called “Kevin’s Law” or “Drum’s Law”):[2]  
> “If the best evidence of wackjobism you can find is a few anonymous nutballs commenting on a blog, then the particular brand of wackjobism you’re complaining about must not be very widespread after all.”
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> In other words, a few crazy people in a movement/organization are not enough to suggest that the entire movement is psychotic.

The only error was that the auto correct separated the word and I left it like that.

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**Author:** ![Vicsage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e68b1a/32.png) [@Vicsage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vicsage)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/574 "2016-10-19T19:49:40Z")

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Larry Flynt was accused by his daughter of sexually abusing her as a child. He also did hire underage strippers to work in his clubs.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/575 "2016-10-19T20:09:53Z")

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> [@Vicsage](#):
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> Larry Flynt was accused by his daughter of sexually abusing her as a child. He also did hire underage strippers to work in his clubs.

And it remains a moot point today; really, that he was reprehensible or not is just a red herring. Trump is the issue and of course it is better for you to point at nuts that are not representative of many Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Vicsage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e68b1a/32.png) [@Vicsage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vicsage)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/576 "2016-10-19T20:27:58Z")

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You were the one who stated, without checking, that Flynt wasn’t a predator. I merely tried to correct your ignorance. It seems you enjoy that state so I will Leave you in it from now on.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/577 "2016-10-19T20:39:44Z")

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> [@Vicsage](#):
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> You were the one who stated, without checking, that Flynt wasn’t a predator. I merely tried to correct your ignorance. It seems you enjoy that state so I will Leave you in it from now on.

Nope, I’m glad to know more, but it should had been in a different thread, not in one where it is clear that you are only willing to tap dance around the matter at hand.

Please explain why when it has been shown that Trump is a bigot, a racist, a xenophobe, and a sexist that you or other conservatives are still voting for him.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/578 "2016-10-19T20:41:12Z")

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> [@Vicsage](#):
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> You were the one who stated, without checking, that Flynt wasn’t a predator. I merely tried to correct your ignorance. It seems you enjoy that state so I will Leave you in it from now on.

Looks more like a _post hoc ergo propter hoc_ argument to me.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/579 "2016-10-19T20:52:02Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Looks more like a _post hoc ergo propter hoc_ argument to me.

Post: after. After hoc. Ergo: therefore. After hoc, therefore something else hoc.

Simple.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/580 "2016-10-19T21:12:12Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Post: after. After hoc. Ergo: therefore. After hoc, therefore something else hoc.

Thank you.

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