# Trump voters: explain yourselves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699 "2016-09-24T03:24:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/41 "2016-09-24T17:29:53Z")

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If they’re both terrible, please don’t vote for the one that empowers the white supremacists. By far the worst things in American history are due to white supremacism. Please don’t do anything that helps them in any way.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/42 "2016-09-24T18:03:54Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Trump is a symptom of a much wider problem, the slow collapse of Democracy around the world.

We both made similar posts about [democracy, propaganda, and Trump.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19650451&postcount=79)

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/43 "2016-09-24T18:11:58Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> If they’re both terrible, please don’t vote for the one that empowers the white supremacists. By far the worst things in American history are due to white supremacism. Please don’t do anything that helps them in any way.

I think the native American Indians (the FEW left) might quibble.

So, as an APPARENT WASP who is secretly an Indian…meh…

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/44 "2016-09-24T18:16:11Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> It’ll be a lot more than that. Do you think the morons destroying Charlotte, for example, are Trump supporters?

No need to mix apples and oranges. Let’s keep this focused on _voting for a President_. There are other ways people can be morons, but this thread isn’t about them.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/45 "2016-09-24T18:18:41Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Exactly! As of this moment, I have finally gotten tired after months of generously, open-mindedly, benefit-of-the-doubtedly, even sympathetically attributing Trump support to\*\* socioeconomic factors. \*\*

Well, some \*\*\*are \*\*\*supporting Trump for socioeconomic reasons. [This article](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/why-democrats-in-western-pennsylvania-are-voting-trump/499577/) describes Democrats in western Pennsylvania supporting Trump due to industry, community, etc.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/46 "2016-09-24T18:25:53Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> No need to mix apples and oranges. Let’s keep this focused on _voting for a President_. There are other ways people can be morons, but this thread isn’t about them.

I think it is. If you think that there are no morons voting for Hillary, then you are… well, a moron.

Do you honestly think that if a poll was taken of the moron rioters in Charlotte, more would be Trump supporters or Hillary supporters?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/47 "2016-09-24T18:26:19Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Trump as president for the next four years? Much closer to catastrophic. Trust me on this.

Who the hell are you, and why should anyone trust you?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/48 "2016-09-24T18:28:37Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I’m voting Johnson but if I absolutely had to vote major party I would vote for Trump over the Queen of the Harpies just for that reason.

Not surprising for a sexist.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/49 "2016-09-24T18:52:33Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Have we done this?
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> I can’t, for the life of me, understand why someone would want Trump as president.
> 
> The man is a dangerous, childish buffoon. My cite? Pretty much everything he’s ever said.
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> I really don’t like the Clintons, either. But, unfortunately, Hillary is the only adult in the room.

That was a good, funny joke right there.

Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/50 "2016-09-24T18:54:26Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Clinton is a proven liar and a felon.

So is Trump, by the same standards of “proof” you use.

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**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/51 "2016-09-24T18:57:21Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> If they’re both terrible, please don’t vote for the one that empowers the white supremacists. By far the worst things in American history are due to white supremacism. Please don’t do anything that helps them in any way.

Again with the phantom specter of “white supremacy”.

Maybe Trump supporters have realized that the battle really isn’t about equality after all…

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/52 "2016-09-24T19:04:19Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That was a good, funny joke right there.
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> Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House.

And Trump is…what?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/53 "2016-09-24T19:05:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That was a good, funny joke right there.
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> Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House.

A felon? Wow. When was she convicted of a felony?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/54 "2016-09-24T19:17:17Z")

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> [@inscrutable](#):
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> Again with the phantom specter of “white supremacy”.

It’s hardly a “phantom specter”, he’s openly supported by the white supremacists.

The Republican party is the party of white racism and has been for decades. Pretending otherwise won’t change that. The racists _are_ the party.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/55 "2016-09-24T19:19:33Z")

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Don’t forget that Dubya’s wife KILLED a guy! And was never brought up on charges! At least we’re pretty sure Hillary or Bill haven’t killed anyone. Trump, y’know, has never SAID he never killed anyone.

I think he may have killed someone. He prolly came close to killing Ivana (Wife #1) that night he ripped out her hair and violently raped her.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/56 "2016-09-24T19:19:43Z")

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As I have been telling people: Trump does not want to be President. He wants to run for President.

He wants a place in history. He’s got it.  
He is having the time of his life, being able to say and do whatever he wants to, and having no real consequences.  
The Republicans know they cannot beat Hillary, so they are letting Trump run.

It all makes sense.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/57 "2016-09-24T19:23:17Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The Republican party is the party of white racism and has been for decades. Pretending otherwise won’t change that. The racists _are_ the party.

Thank God you finally cleared that up.

For a moment there I thought I might have been wasting my time all these years.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/58 "2016-09-24T19:32:28Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That was a good, funny joke right there.
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> Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House.

Trump is a proven liar.

What felony has Hillary been convicted of?

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/59 "2016-09-24T19:41:12Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Exactly! As of this moment, I have finally gotten tired after months of generously, open-mindedly, benefit-of-the-doubtedly, even sympathetically attributing Trump support to socioeconomic factors. Trump supporters are puerile idiots, period. How ironic that so many of them deride “political correctness,” and supposedly favor take-off-the-gloves, tell-it-like-it-is directness over coddling, permissive empathy, when THEY have benefited enormously from exactly the latter, for too long.
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> Am I really saying that something like 40% of the adult population of the US are truly morons? I can’t believe it, but yes. Facts are facts. No more mister nice guy.
> 
> The kicker for me hearing last night that a poll found that only 30% of Americans think Trump is “fit to be president,” yet around 48% are planning to vote for him.
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> So, give or take for polling details blah blah blah, that’s 18% right there – millions of people! – about whom we should be amazed they remember to breathe in and out, day after day.

I didn’t vote in that poll is it still open , I want to vote Trump is UNFIT to be president ! He unfit to run for any office !

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/60 "2016-09-24T19:59:09Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That was a good, funny joke right there.
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> Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House.

[Trump’s PolitiFact Scorecard](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/)  
False, Mostly False, Pants On Fire = 70%

[Clinton’s PolitiFact Scorecard](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/)  
False, Mostly False, Pants On Fire = 28%

**She’s** the liar?

Also, what felony was she convicted of?

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