# Trump voters: explain yourselves **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699 "2016-09-24T03:24:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/61 "2016-09-24T20:22:43Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Republican party is the party of white racism and has been for decades. Pretending otherwise won’t change that. The racists _are_ the party. I’m not sure you’re right. I was reading about [Robert Smalls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smalls) yesterday and was surprised to learn that back then it was the Republicans who were the party of Black Americans and the Democrats who were the party of the racists, and then I remembered the switch in the 1960s, so I think it’s more correct to say that it’s Southern white Americans who are more likely to be racists. Right now they happen to vote Republican; that could easily change. There are plenty of Republicans outside the south: are they all racists too? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/62 "2016-09-24T20:31:51Z")
The Republicans are the party that welcomes them in; that embraces them; that allows them to rise to positions of power, that votes them into office. Pointing out that it’s more typical for them to do these things regionally does not negate the fact that they are the PARTY that does them. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/63 "2016-09-24T20:34:17Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > …I think it’s more correct to say that it’s Southern white Americans who are more likely to be racists. Right now they happen to vote Republican; that could easily change. There are plenty of Republicans outside the south: are they all racists too? I have more Southern friends than Republican friends, and they and I get touchy when someone paints the white Southern population as slack-jawed yokel racists, while us Yankees are all broad-minded saintly hand-holders. Randy Newman had a good snarky take on that way back in 1972. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5mue4uDHNQ) ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/64 "2016-09-24T20:36:17Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5mue4uDHNQ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5mue4uDHNQ) Meh…that video came up a bit “short” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/65 "2016-09-24T20:38:52Z")
Republicans are conservative and conservative resists change. So, if you come up with a program to eradicate racism in America without changing anything, they’re cool. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/66 "2016-09-24T20:41:42Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I think the native American Indians (the FEW left) might quibble. > > So, as an APPARENT WASP who is secretly an Indian…meh… That’s also due to white supremacism. Without white supremacism, there would have been no beliefs in the superiority of the settlers vs the natives. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/67 "2016-09-24T20:43:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That was a good, funny joke right there. > > Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House. Trump is more of a liar, and Clinton’s not a felon. Comey specifically said that her mistakes didn’t rise to the level of criminal behavior. And this jives with my Navy experience – I’ve known dozens or even hundreds of people who have mishandled classified or controlled information, and none of them were prosecuted. The only ones who are prosecuted are ones who do so willfully for profit, for spying, or in a deliberate release to journalists. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/68 "2016-09-24T20:46:57Z")
Ahem. “jibes.” “jives” gives an entirely different meaning to your sentence. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/69 "2016-09-24T20:57:53Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Trump is a proven liar. > > What felony has Hillary been convicted of? Evading arrest. It happened around the same time **Clothahump** became a proven Communist and a child molester. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/70 "2016-09-24T21:12:28Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Evading arrest. > > It happened around the same time **Clothahump** became a proven Communist and a child molester. \“…I’ve heard people say.”\ ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/71 "2016-09-24T21:13:19Z")
Pretty amusing how nervous alot of the dems are getting. Six months ago your bitch was a lock. Can’t wait until this stupid charade cycle is over. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/72 "2016-09-24T21:15:17Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Evading arrest. > > It happened around the same time **Clothahump** became a proven Communist and a child molester. So, uhhh he was proven to be a communist, at which point he became a child molester ? 🙂 PS. That is a joke folks he is neither! But the Hal Briston and him and goats is still totally true! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/73 "2016-09-24T21:16:25Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I’m not sure you’re right. I was reading about [Robert Smalls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smalls) yesterday and was surprised to learn that back then it was the Republicans who were the party of Black Americans and the Democrats who were the party of the racists, and then I remembered the switch in the 1960s, so I think it’s more correct to say that it’s Southern white Americans who are more likely to be racists. Right now they happen to vote Republican; that could easily change. There are plenty of Republicans outside the south: are they all racists too? Yes. The non-racists left the party long ago. The Republicans _are_ the party of white racism, their agenda _is_ one of racism, therefore being a Republican or voting for them is in itself a racist act whether it’s intended to be or not. A person can’t support the Republicans without supporting racism any more than someone can support the KKK without supporting racism. And various other bigotries as well. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/74 "2016-09-24T21:21:58Z")
> [@inscrutable](#): > > Again with the phantom specter of “white supremacy”. > > Maybe Trump supporters have realized that the battle really isn’t about equality after all… It’s not a “phantom specter”, it’s a real force in American history, society, and culture. Thankfully it’s not the dominant force any more, and it’s been dying a long and very slow death, but Trump is empowering it. He could use the same brutal language to describe David Duke and various other white supremacists who have supported him as he has to describe Obama, Hillary, and various others, but all he’ll offer are tepid disavowals. David Duke almost became governor of a state just 25 years ago or so – was that a fluke? Have times really changed that much since the early 90s in terms of how his former supporters feel about black people? Considering all the polls showing Trump supporters’ belief in birtherism, negative feelings for black people, negative feelings for other minorities, and the like, I think it’s still, unfortunately, a significant force. We should do everything we can to continue its decline, and Trump’s election would reverse this progress. ---
**Author:** ![Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Last\_Glacial\_Maximum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Last_Glacial_Maximum)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/75 "2016-09-24T21:23:30Z")
Posts #8 and #40 are basically the sentiments of the Trump voters I’ve talked to… . ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/76 "2016-09-24T21:25:16Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > So, uhhh he was proven to be a communist, at which point he became a child molester ? 🙂 > > PS. **That is a joke folks he is neither!** But the Hal Briston and him and goats is still totally true! Cite? That’s not what I heard from a lot of very smart people. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/77 "2016-09-24T21:34:56Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > [Trump’s PolitiFact Scorecard](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) > False, Mostly False, Pants On Fire = 70% > > [Clinton’s PolitiFact Scorecard](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/) > False, Mostly False, Pants On Fire = 28% > > **She’s** the liar? > > Also, what felony was she convicted of? Clinton hatred isn’t rational or based on fact. It’s the result of echo-chamber hyper-reverberation, where things get repeated and repeated and morph into knee-jerk, unthinking platitudes. It has little to do with her actual policies, and mostly to do with her personality, and her inability to woo the media. The result is that so many people say they “don’t trust” her, but can’t say what they expect her to actually do that would be so bad. (The few things they point to are nowhere to be found in her policies.) Of course it’s easy for Trump to leverage this–he doesn’t have to do very much. I have problems with some of Clinton’s policies, but I can also recognize the mindless hysteria against her when I see it. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/78 "2016-09-24T21:41:44Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Cite? That’s not what I heard from a lot of very smart people. Dude, the Dope isn’t what you think it is 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/79 "2016-09-24T21:42:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That was a good, funny joke right there. > > Clinton is a proven liar and a felon. I’ll vote for Trump to keep her out of the White House. I’d vote for a one-legged leper to keep her out of the White House. So you’re not coming back to defend your nasty allegations? Not even to answer questions or “refudiate” the facts given to you? Not only are you a drooling moron, you’re a gutless coward, too. It’s very easy to understand _why_ you’re a Trump fan: You’re one of America’s **worst** Americans. Deplorable filth. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699/80 "2016-09-24T21:45:10Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Dude, the Dope isn’t what you think it is 🙂 Hillary isn’t what you think she is. Come to think of it, neither is Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-explain-yourselves/766699.md?page=5)