# Trump Voters - have any of you changed your mind? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 17, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726 "2021-01-17T13:45:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/21 "2021-01-18T18:00:33Z")
In November 2016, Trump was the lesser evil. In November 2020, Trump was still the lesser evil. In my opinion, Trump’s policies were better for the economy than Biden’s policies are likely to be. Before the virus, median family income was rising. Black unemployment, Hispanic unemployment, Asian unemployment, and female unemployment were falling. If Trump wanted to hurt minorities, he did it wrong. In my opinion, gun control makes law-abiding citizens into easy prey for criminals. Biden said he wanted to put Beto O’Rourke in charge of gun control. In my opinion, we should tighten control over the border first, and give amnesty to illegal aliens afterward. At best, Biden has it backwards. I am not thrilled about the post-election squabbling. But I think the election officials in Philadelphia made a strenuous effort to look suspicious to their opponents. Riots are bad m’kay? When BLM and Antifa rioted, that was bad. When Trumpists rioted, that was bad. As of today (01/18/2021), the BLM riots have racked up a significantly higher body count than the Trumpist riots. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/22 "2021-01-18T18:22:48Z")
Did Joe Biden ever do anything to encourage rioters? I seem to recall him unequivocally denouncing it. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/23 "2021-01-18T18:35:55Z")
Hey, Irishman, good try :). If you haven’t checked previous threads, you’re not going to get much of a response, because the members of the board here can’t help themselves in jumping on any Trump voters that express their opinion. Even after Moderator action. But no, I haven’t changed my mind. I wish he’d won, and I think Biden’s going to be horrible. Now I’m going back to Lurking. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/24 "2021-01-18T18:50:01Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Riots are bad m’kay? When BLM and Antifa rioted, that was bad. When Trumpists rioted, that was bad. As of today (01/18/2021), the BLM riots have racked up a significantly higher body count than the Trumpist riots. Of course I disagree with your rationale of support for him. You would have gotten right wing judges, tax cuts for the wealthy, and gutting environmental protection with any Republican president. You just wouldn’t have gotten the white supremacy. As for riots, I draw a distinction between uprisings in protest of police murders of minorities and uprisings to overthrow the government orchestrated by an incumbent president. It seems you do not make that distinction. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/25 "2021-01-18T19:03:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Of course I disagree with your rationale of support for him. You would have gotten right wing judges, tax cuts for the wealthy, and gutting environmental protection with any Republican president. I get why that’d be a fine point to make during the Republican primaries, but the guy you’re replying to there kicked off his remarks with the following: “In November 2016, Trump was the lesser evil. In November 2020, Trump was still the lesser evil.” By then, the choice was between a Democrat and _that_ Republican; why mention that folks could’ve gotten right-wing judges and so on with any Republican president, if “In November” there was really just the one option on the ballot for so getting said judges and et cetera? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/26 "2021-01-18T19:10:06Z")
Your point is well taken. I understand there are people who vote for any Republican over any Democrat. Yes, if the primary was contested he could have chosen someone else and he was left with what he thought was two evils. So, mbh, do we understand this correctly? You may not like this Republican but you voted out of party loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/27 "2021-01-18T19:23:38Z")
I disagree with most of your positions but I’ll probably never get you to agree with me. I nevertheless commend you for acknowledging that his behavior post-election has been disgraceful. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/28 "2021-01-18T19:28:58Z")
If I were singularly focused on getting tax cuts, less regulation, business friendly courts, restricted immigration, and abortion restrictions, I could see the value in having Trump as my president – if I didn’t care about the national debt, preserving American influence globally, global trade, domestic polarization, and social justice. I can respectfully understand how some voters might see some upside in Trump; I just wish they had really considered the downside more. It was always there, and the ‘disgraceful’ exit was inevitable all along. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/29 "2021-01-18T19:36:12Z")
In the 2020 Republican Presidential Primary, Trump received 94% of the vote. His nearest competitor Bill Weld got 2%. On top of that, he received a record 18 million votes in the primary. The GOP base seemed absolutely enthusiastic about hopping aboard the Trump train. If there really were a significant number of Republican voters that were personally disgusted with Trump but voted for him anyway as a result of negative partisanship, I wonder why there wasn’t any real appetite for a primary challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/30 "2021-01-18T23:16:44Z")
Moderating: Since you can’t seem to follow the “Don’t hijack” instructions I am going to close this now. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-voters-have-any-of-you-changed-your-mind/930726/31 "2021-01-18T23:17:07Z")
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