# Trump vows to dump "Johnson Amendment"(no church politicking) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 2, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825 "2017-02-02T16:10:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825/81 "2017-02-06T07:13:22Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > The Left chooses Islam, the " Religion of peace" , female mutilation, pedophilia, homosexual execution, slavery. > > The rest choose none or Christianity. That’s where we are and what has happened. > > works for me, trash the Johnson Amendment. I see someone has tossed out the usual canard against Islam, yet studiously avoided mentioning “the religion of ‘the prince of peace’”. FYI, both religions currently have groups practicing or advocating female mutilation, pedophilia, homosexual execution, and slavery. The Johnson amendment is in Trump’s cross hairs because his bigoted base hates the way it prevents them from ramming their own religion down everyone else’s throat. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825/82 "2017-02-06T08:31:05Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Will the Democrats dare to block that? Is Trump setting this up as a trap for the Dems? I have no idea how this polls, but it would not surprise me if most Americans supported repeal. A year ago, I would have disagreed adamantly with such a prediction, but then I also would have disagreed that there was a possibility that the electorate included enough America-hating fucksticks for the king of America-hating fucksticks to pick up a single EV. > [@kayaker](#): > > I have no problem with the idea, just so they lose tax exempt status. Hell, he can pay for his damn wall with the revenue. So . . . the border wall is just the wall of separation between Church and State, re-purposed? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825/83 "2017-02-06T14:32:58Z")
> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#): > > For one thing, who decides what constitutes a church? By determining who qualifies as a church (and thus getting a tax advantage) they are establishing or de-establishing a church. > > Secondly, why should churches be the only ones getting that tax break? Why aren’t all the other 501(c)3 orgs getting the same treatment as well? It’s blatantly obvious what the intent of repealing the JA is. I honestly would not mind chu-… religious organizations… being forced to pay taxes on their holdings, but that’s probably because I know that for every dollar that they don’t pay towards this country’s infrastructure, some fraction of it you and I do. I don’t think its fair that religion gets a free ride off of the backs of citizens who are struggling. Religion is something that can be practiced for free at home. To have huge buildings, properties, schools, a paid staff of Og-assistants and Spiritual Leaders (complete with hokey costumes) and golden idols/toilets to pray at is somebody’s Luxury. Like any luxury, it should be Taxed. That’s my opinion… but I’m not sure if your opinion above it would agree or disagree with it. As for the JA… yes I’m sure this action repealing it will work towards trying to shove religion up… shove it down… well, its trying shove religion somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825/84 "2017-02-06T15:42:12Z")
It should be repealed. It’s not enforced because the authorities are scared to enforce it because they’d lose in court and it would be repealed by the judiciary. They want the chilling effect of its existence, rather than the ugliness of actual enforcement. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825/85 "2017-02-06T17:44:19Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > It would be trivially easy to eliminate this rule - Trump would simply need to direct the IRS to no longer enforce its provisions. Other priorities and all that. > > That being said, I’m against the idea of tax exemption for organizations as a whole so this seems counter to that. I worked with a 501(c)3 organization before … it was a museum … the tax forms were similar enough to normal tax forms, such that revenue minus expenses equals earnings … the difference was that these earnings were not distributed to the owners … it was used strictly to acquire new material for the museum … no individual benefited from that money, so which individual do we tax? I run my business as a sole proprietor, as such my business pays zero income taxes, not one penny … at the bottom of my business tax form is my earnings … this number is then transferred over to my personal tax forms … and the taxes due calculated on my personal tax form … and I have to pay those taxes with my personal funds … I can put up a sign saying we should destroy the US Federal government, the museum cannot unless it agrees to pay taxes … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vows-to-dump-johnson-amendment-no-church-politicking/778825.md?page=4)