# Trump vs Clinton: Rural/Urban divides **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 28, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339 "2016-04-28T15:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/1 "2016-04-28T15:15:42Z")
For a long time now Democratic strength has been in cities with increasing success moving into suburbs, and the GOP has been strongest in White rural America. Within their respective primary campaign (Trump’s performance in NYC home turf excepted) they seem to each be playing to those strengths. See [PA details](http://www.dailyyonder.com/clinton-wins-by-bigger-margin-in-cities-trump-in-rural/2016/04/27/12846/) for example: > [@](#): > > Two strong trends continued Tuesday in presidential politics: New York real estate developer Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton both won handily. And rural voters turned out for the candidates who presented the strongest challenge to the establishment. … Trump won 55.7 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania’s cities, but 63 percent of the vote in rural counties and in counties with small cities (between 10,000 and 50,000 people). > Sanders won only 43.2 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania’s large urban areas, but in rural counties he won a thin majority to defeat Clinton there. … Trump is also doing relatively weaker in [suburban America](http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-weakness-in-big-suburbs-could-hurt-him-in-november-1459071006). Both teams will know this going into the general; how do they play it? Do the Democrats essentially cede predominantly White rural districts and focus on maximizing urban turnout and flipping the suburbs? Do they bring on a VP with rural expertise who can seriously address real issues of rural America and signal that rural America needs ladders too and that their economic hard times are both acknowledged and an item of high priority to attempt to address (attacking Trump’s area of greatest strength)? What tactic could a Team Trump take to not lose the suburbs? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/2 "2016-04-28T16:14:35Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Do they bring on a VP with rural expertise . . . I recommend [Jim Hightower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hightower). He’s a solid progressive and he was Texas Commissioner of Agriculture once, what better rural expertise can you get? ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/3 "2016-04-28T16:49:58Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I recommend [Jim Hightower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hightower). He’s a solid progressive and he was Texas Commissioner of Agriculture once, what better rural expertise can you get? Hightower is old and hasn’t ever won a particularly high elective office. I like the idea of a prairie populist type who could actually refocus the Democratic party on rural issues, even if it doesn’t pay high dividends this year. Just not sure I can think of any individuals who wouldn’t be overwhelmed by negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/4 "2016-04-28T16:57:27Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I recommend [Jim Hightower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hightower). He’s a solid progressive and he was Texas Commissioner of Agriculture once, what better rural expertise can you get? That is an intriguing choice with a lot going for it. The only problem would be getting over any bad blood between him and the Clintons. > [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Hightower is old and hasn’t ever won a particularly high elective office. In the current anti-establishment climate that may actually be a plus. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/5 "2016-04-28T17:42:59Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I recommend [Jim Hightower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hightower). He’s a solid progressive and he was Texas Commissioner of Agriculture once, what better rural expertise can you get? Yeah, almost 30 years ago. I don’t think even he would think he’s VP material. Sarah Palin had more of a resume. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/6 "2016-04-28T18:14:50Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Yeah, almost 30 years ago. I don’t think even he would think he’s VP material. Sarah Palin had more of a resume. Hightower’s real resume is his radio segment. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/7 "2016-04-28T19:59:16Z")
The op is more interested in the broader than the pros and cons of one specific left field VP speculation. So more broadly, would a VP with real rural cred be the tactic to go with (whoever you think that might be and assumiong they also bring enough else of substance)? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/8 "2016-04-28T20:51:38Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > The op is more interested in the broader than the pros and cons of one specific left field VP speculation. So more broadly, would a VP with real rural cred be the tactic to go with (whoever you think that might be and assumiong they also bring enough else of substance)? No. Ticket-balancing, if done at all, should be a regional thing. Maybe Clinton needs a Californian or a Coloradan, the West being the one part of the country which is not her home in any sense. But she doesn’t need a pol from a rural district, because such usually have little name-recognition, and because the Pubs have that market sewn up and she doesn’t need it to win. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/9 "2016-04-28T23:14:38Z")
So even more bird’s eye … your thought is to not bother trying to appeal to rural voters or bother with the issues they have that have validity (certainly not all of what they identify as their issues) because the GOP has that demographic sewn up and she does not need it, yes? Instead then maximize urban turnout and win the suburbs more solidly? I suspect that will be the tactic taken and will be a winning one. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-clinton-rural-urban-divides/753339/10 "2016-04-28T23:47:34Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > So even more bird’s eye … your thought is to not bother trying to appeal to rural voters or bother with the issues they have that have validity . . . It’s worthwhile doing something about those issues when in office, but it’s not worthwhile for a Democrat to campaign on them; they’ll never listen.