# Trump Vs. The Boy Scouts: Much Ado About Nothing, or An Embarrassing Mess? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080 "2017-07-25T15:15:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/221 "2017-08-03T14:43:13Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You could say he was never a Scout. Maybe not in spirit, but he belonged to a troop, he was registered with the BSA. You could say he never should have been a scout, or never acted appropriately as a scout. But, now hopefully, you can also say, he is no longer a scout. Disrespect is one thing, and I feel anyone who was booing or otherwise dishonoring their scouting philosophy in response to Obama “was never a Scout” either, but deliberate malicious damage to expensive equipment is gonna get you booted. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/222 "2017-08-03T14:47:40Z")
BTW, anyone know what the response was in 2013 to Obama’s recorded speech? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/223 "2017-08-03T14:54:11Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > **Maybe not in spirit** , but he belonged to a troop, he was registered with the BSA. You could say he never should have been a scout, or never acted appropriately as a scout. > > But, now hopefully, you can also say, he is no longer a scout. > > Disrespect is one thing, and I feel anyone who was booing or otherwise dishonoring their scouting philosophy in response to Obama “was never a Scout” either, but deliberate malicious damage to expensive equipment is gonna get you booted. That’s exactly what I was getting at. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/224 "2017-08-03T15:04:35Z")
I thought it was a “throwing something at a screen” 1984 reference. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/225 "2017-08-03T15:20:25Z")
> [@brossa](#): > > Anyway, many Scouts were not cheering, but the ones that were whipped into a frenzy more than made up for it. After Trump’s speech, they showed Obama’s previous video message (from 2013?) on a Jumbotron, and a Scout threw a rock at the screen, breaking a segment. That got him frog marched out instantly, and my son said that kid’s whole troop left as well. I bet when Trump heard about this, he said to himself"Yep-I’ve still got it!" ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/226 "2017-08-04T15:02:47Z")
I know Trump is more evil than Hitler and Satan combined but I never thought he was so evil as to align himself with children fuckers. I guess he’s more evil than God now. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/227 "2017-08-04T15:23:12Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I know Trump is more evil than Hitler and Satan combined but I never thought he was so evil as to align himself with children fuckers. I guess he’s more evil than God now. Thanks, **Drunky**. A thread just isn’t complete without you popping in, spewing some over the top inanity, then popping back out again to, one supposes, sleep it off. Take care, and see you next time! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/228 "2017-08-04T15:33:13Z")
The fun part is noting that in order to present a hyperbolic version of how normal people see Trump **Drunky** has to resort to “more evil than Hitler and Satan combined” because actual Trump keeps getting worse and worse. “Yes, it’s terrible how Trump keeps stabbing kittens…wait, he did? Really?..Okay it’s terrible how Trump raped and killed a busload of nuns…what? Oh COME ON…” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/229 "2017-08-04T16:32:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Thanks, **Drunky**. A thread just isn’t complete without you popping in, spewing some over the top inanity, then popping back out again to, one supposes, sleep it off. > Take care, and see you next time! Drunky serves a purpose. If he ever actually makes sense, or says something relevant, then I know the world is fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/230 "2017-08-04T16:37:25Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Drunky serves a purpose. > > If he ever actually makes sense, or says something relevant, then I know the world is fucked. He’s our coal in the canary mine. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/231 "2017-08-04T16:40:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Thanks, **Drunky**. A thread just isn’t complete without you popping in… You spelled “pooping” wrong. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/232 "2017-08-04T17:06:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The fun part is noting that in order to present a hyperbolic version of how normal people see Trump **Drunky** has to resort to “more evil than Hitler and Satan combined” because actual Trump keeps getting worse and worse. > > “Yes, it’s terrible how Trump keeps stabbing kittens…wait, he did? Really?..Okay it’s terrible how Trump raped and killed a busload of nuns…what? Oh COME ON…” I don’t envy him. Much like press secretary or chief of staff, “Trump hyperbolizer” is not a job with a secure future. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/233 "2017-08-04T17:11:59Z")
Wasn’t there a thread way back when when Republicans were asked what it would taken for them to openly oppose President Trump? I sure would like to compare notes between then and now. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/234 "2017-08-04T17:54:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Wasn’t there a thread way back when when Republicans were asked what it would taken for them to openly oppose President Trump? I sure would like to compare notes between then and now. Did any of them actually answer? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/235 "2017-08-04T18:00:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Did any of them actually answer? I think a few did-that’s why I’d like to find it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/236 "2017-08-04T18:33:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think a few did-that’s why I’d like to find it. I remember that thread, I don’t think that [this is the one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=825959) you are thinking of, but it is similar. I don’t think I have it in my subscribed threads, as I didn’t seem to come across it. I think the consensus was that the trump supporters like okra or dickta felt that trump really could do no wrong, and no matter what he did, it was better than what Clinton did. Some of the non-Failure McLoserface supporting republicans did express a bit more hesitancy in their support, but essentially it sounded like they would oppose trump if it had been proven that he had committed a crime. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/237 "2017-08-04T21:40:34Z")
> [@brossa](#): > > they could respect the institution without respecting the man. I never have understood this. I mean, yes, I can respect the institution in the abstract. I can argue that having a president is a good thing for our country, and stuff like that. But what does that have to do with showing respect to the man, even though I don’t respect him? The only logic I could see would be that respecting the office mean that, if someone not respectful has it, I refuse to acknowledge that they actually are President, out of respect for the office. If I acknowledge that Trump is president, I’m sullying the office by association. In other words, it would seem that respecting the office means being disrespectful to the man who is sullying the office. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/238 "2017-08-04T21:46:17Z")
Feel free to replace “office” with “institution” in the post above. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/239 "2017-08-04T21:55:55Z")
I promise to take my shoes off before entering and I won’t put my feet on the coffee table. In this manner would I respect the office. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080/240 "2017-08-04T23:54:21Z")
I think allowing a stupid narcissistic bullying weakling maniac traitor to remain pr\*sident is a bigger disrespect for the office. I’m rooting for Team Meuller. I hope he crucifies the whole bunch of them. Cronies, “advisors”, family, ALL of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-vs-the-boy-scouts-much-ado-about-nothing-or-an-embarrassing-mess/792080.md?page=11)