# Trump wanted USS John McCain hidden in Japan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749 "2019-05-30T01:52:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/21 "2019-05-30T14:43:08Z")
I have very little use for McCain as a politician. His choice of Sarah Palin helped get us to Trump. However, and in spite of the fact the he might have been a careless pilot, the man is a bona fide war hero who endured an ordeal the great majority of us can’t imagine. Anyone who calls him a traitor needs to be dick-punched without delay. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/22 "2019-05-30T15:00:44Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Based on no evidence, my WAG is that this is close to the truth. Some lower level officials, either to earn brownie points or to avoid a tantrum, made this happen without Trump’s direction. Trump is still infantile, of course, but he may not have explicitly ordered it. Which of course raises the question of which is worse. The president ordering an infantile action, or a president whose deportment is such that his staff can anticipate that he would desire an infantile action. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/23 "2019-05-30T15:03:25Z")
[Sen. Klobuchar](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/politics/klobuchar-mccain-response/index.html) relates that McCain kept muttering the names of dictators throughout Trump’s inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/24 "2019-05-30T15:03:45Z")
Trump bashed McCain before the election, but what really ticked Trump off was McCain not voting to get rid of Obamacare. If McCain had voted to cancel Obamacare possibly Trump would have backed off at least somewhat. ---
**Author:** ![Smitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Smitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smitty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/25 "2019-05-30T15:12:28Z")
Anyone who thinks this is a big deal knows NOTHING about how political staff operates. They go out of their way to protect their bosses from anything that looks bad in the media. Obviously, any picture of Trump with a ship named “McCain” behind him would cause the media to rehash the whole story. Why even go through that? It’s just like the staff will not allow a fat candidate to be photographed with a pig or other large animal in the background. But since you all hate Trump so much it must be something insidious. Grow up a little. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/26 "2019-05-30T15:13:08Z")
I’m not really seeing an election angle, here. I see more complaining. I’ll send this to the Pit so y’all can really get your complaining on. Go wild. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/27 "2019-05-30T15:21:58Z")
> [@Smitty](#): > > Anyone who thinks this is a big deal knows NOTHING about how political staff operates. They go out of their way to protect their bosses from anything that looks bad in the media. Obviously, any picture of Trump with a ship named “McCain” behind him would cause the media to rehash the whole story. Why even go through that? It’s just like the staff will not allow a fat candidate to be photographed with a pig or other large animal in the background. But since you all hate Trump so much it must be something insidious. Grow up a little. Agree completely! Let’s save our outrage for something serious, like if Trump ever wears a tan suit! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/28 "2019-05-30T15:27:08Z")
> [@Smitty](#): > > Anyone who thinks this is a big deal knows NOTHING about how political staff operates. They go out of their way to protect their bosses from anything that looks bad in the media. Obviously, any picture of Trump with a ship named “McCain” behind him would cause the media to rehash the whole story. Why even go through that? It’s just like the staff will not allow a fat candidate to be photographed with a pig or other large animal in the background. But since you all hate Trump so much it must be something insidious. Grow up a little. In this case the candidate is the pig, and they wanted to avoid the “whole story” of the pig acting pig-like. If Trump wasn’t such a complete ass, there would be no issue with the USS McCain being in the photo. ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/29 "2019-05-30T15:28:28Z")
> [@Smitty](#): > > Anyone who thinks this is a big deal knows NOTHING about how political staff operates. They go out of their way to protect their bosses from anything that looks bad in the media. Obviously, any picture of Trump with a ship named “McCain” behind him would cause the media to rehash the whole story. Why even go through that? It’s just like the staff will not allow a fat candidate to be photographed with a pig or other large animal in the background. But since you all hate Trump so much it must be something insidious. Grow up a little. So they cover it up which creates a bigger news story? That’s how political staff should operate? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/30 "2019-05-30T15:35:12Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I have a good idea who they can name the next garbage scow for. > [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Garbage scows serve a purpose and are useful. Indeed. A ship named for Cadet Bone Spurs should not be _hauling_ garbage… ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/31 "2019-05-30T15:38:22Z")
Special snowflakes need safe spaces created around them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/32 "2019-05-30T15:46:00Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Indeed. A ship named for Cadet Bone Spurs should not be _hauling_ garbage… /throws Tribble at Steve MB ---
**Author:** ![poweroftheglory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@poweroftheglory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poweroftheglory)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/33 "2019-05-30T16:00:40Z")
Trumps hatred of McCain is one of his few good traits. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/34 "2019-05-30T16:03:18Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > Trumps hatred of McCain is one of his few good traits. Well, except for the fact that he hates him for all the wrong reasons. He hates the honorable and decent things McCain did, not stuff that McCain can be legitimately criticized for. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/35 "2019-05-30T16:03:22Z")
> [@Smitty](#): > > Anyone who thinks this is a big deal knows NOTHING about how political staff operates. They go out of their way to protect their bosses from anything that looks bad in the media. Obviously, any picture of Trump with a ship named “McCain” behind him would cause the media to rehash the whole story. Why even go through that? It’s just like the staff will not allow a fat candidate to be photographed with a pig or other large animal in the background. But since you all hate Trump so much it must be something insidious. Grow up a little. Avoiding the pig exhibit at the Iowa state fair is a bit different than covering up the name of a warship. You’re right, perhaps the media would have made a story of it if Trump wasn’t busy praising murderous dictators and condemning a Vice President of the USA on foreign soil ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/36 "2019-05-30T16:04:49Z")
Another example of Trump unhinged. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/37 "2019-05-30T16:11:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Yes, ‘Baby McCain’ is a traitor: > > > [@](#): > > > > Baby McCain is not the hero you want to believe! Can you imagine how good he had it with his father and grandfather, admirals? I doubt very seriously they were proud of his spoiled brat antics! Again projection. “[S]poiled brat antics”? The irony of Trump saying McCain benefited from his father and grandfather is deep. Maybe he did somewhat, but I’d say McCain was his own man. Trump, on the other hand, was initially staked and then repeatedly bailed out financially by his father because he’s an incompetent businessman. Can you imagine what a failure in life Trump would be if he had been born into a middle-class family? He’d be [Biff Tannen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Tannen) from _Back to the Future_: > [@](#): > > The character is portrayed as a towering, violent and aggressive bully who obtains what he wants by intimidating others into doing his work for him, or by cheating. He and his family members are shown to misuse idioms in a way that makes them appear stupid and pathetic despite their intention to insult or scare. His favorite insult is “butthead”. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/38 "2019-05-30T16:31:23Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Again projection. “[S]poiled brat antics”? The irony of Trump saying McCain benefited from his father and grandfather is deep. Maybe he did somewhat, but I’d say McCain was his own man. Trump, on the other hand, was initially staked and then repeatedly bailed out financially by his father because he’s an incompetent businessman. Can you imagine what a failure in life Trump would be if he had been born into a middle-class family? He’d be [Biff Tannen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Tannen) from _Back to the Future_: Biff Tannen _was_ based on Trump. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/39 "2019-05-30T16:42:20Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Biff Tannen _was_ based on Trump. I did not know that, but it turns out this is true: [‘Back to the Future’ Writer: Biff Is Donald Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/back-to-the-future-writer-biff-is-donald-trump-190408/) _“That’s what we were thinking about,” says screenwriter Bob Gale_ > [@](#): > > The similarities between the megalomaniacal billionaire hotel-casino owner with hair the texture of cotton candy, a penchant for surgically enhanced arm candy and outsize ambitions that appears in Back to the Future Part II and the one presently appearing on the presidential campaign trail? > > Not so coincidental after all! > > Back to the Future Part II screenwriter Bob Gale confirmed in an interview with the Daily Beast that Donald Trump was the inspiration for the character he and director Robert Zemeckis created back in 1989. I guess I have to say “Good job, screenwriters!” Although, the first movie came out in 1985. I’ve seen that one several times; the sequels maybe only once or twice and don’t really remember them except the Clint Eastwood quote in the Western one. ---
**Author:** ![poweroftheglory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@poweroftheglory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poweroftheglory)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/40 "2019-05-30T16:48:21Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Well, except for the fact that he hates him for all the wrong reasons. He hates the honorable and decent things McCain did, not stuff that McCain can be legitimately criticized for. I agree that even when Trump is right it is always for the wrong reasons. There was nothing honorable about McCain. McCain was every bit as deplorable as Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749.md?page=3)