# Trump wanted USS John McCain hidden in Japan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749 "2019-05-30T01:52:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/41 "2019-05-30T16:49:27Z")
Whether the Dotard-in-Chief ordered that that be done or his staff did so without his knowledge, to me, is irrelevant. What IS relevant is that we apparently have someone living in the W.H. who is SO sensitive that he can’t even bear to see the name of someone whom he thought was a “total loser” on the side of a U.S. ship. What’s this about us non-Trumptards being “snowflakes” simply because we can’t cope with a person of such low character and intelligence being in the W.H., hm? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/42 "2019-05-30T16:56:48Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > I agree that even when Trump is right it is always for the wrong reasons. There was nothing honorable about McCain. McCain was every bit as deplorable as Trump. I’m no fan of McCain, but I will never agree that he “was every bit as deplorable as Trump.” He had moments of decency. Trump never has. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/43 "2019-05-30T17:08:47Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m no fan of McCain, but I will never agree that he “was every bit as deplorable as Trump.” He had moments of decency. Trump never has. I agree with this 100%. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/44 "2019-05-30T17:17:42Z")
Trump manages to work his hatred of McCain into a tweet that supposedly honors former Senator Thad Cochran > ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/45 "2019-05-30T19:14:01Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Trump manages to work his hatred of McCain into a tweet that supposedly honors former Senator Thad Cochran > > [https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1134134203308752898?s=21](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1134134203308752898?s=21) This just shows you what an incompetent landlord Trump is, he’s letting a dead man live in his head rent-free. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/46 "2019-05-30T20:39:49Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Special snowflakes need safe spaces created around them. Name the Official White House snowdome after him. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/47 "2019-05-30T20:50:14Z")
A four year old child could handle this situation in a more adult manner than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/48 "2019-05-30T20:51:16Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > John McCain Sr. and Jr. were both Admirals. Senator McCain was a captain which is right below admiral. He probably would have made admiral if he did not retire due to his injuries from being tortured in Vietnam. See, spoiled brat. They probably didn’t even torture him all that much. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/49 "2019-05-30T21:41:42Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > This just shows you what an incompetent landlord Trump is, he’s letting a dead man live in his head rent-free. Well, yeah. McCain was white! Still a slum in that property by any measure. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/50 "2019-05-31T16:02:55Z")
Others have pointed it out already, but I’ll reiterate that that the evidence so far is that this was ordered/requested by White House Military Office staff, not Trump himself. Yes, we’re dealing with bunch of big fat liars, so who knows for sure. [White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit - WSJ](https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-wanted-uss-john-mccain-out-of-sight-during-trump-japan-visit-11559173470)? (That WSJ article cites conflicting reports about acting DS Shanahan’s involvement.) The reasonable inference is that they thought he’d do/say something stupid if he were surprised by seeing the ship’s name… Kevin Drum: [For the Record: Here’s the Email Telling the Navy to Hide the USS John McCain – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/05/for-the-record-heres-the-email-telling-the-navy-to-hide-the-uss-john-mccain/) Robert Farley: [McCain Not Revisited – Lawyers, Guns & Money](http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/05/mccain-not-revisited) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/51 "2019-05-31T17:29:21Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Others have pointed it out already, but I’ll reiterate that that the evidence so far is that this was ordered/requested by White House Military Office staff, not Trump himself. Yes, we’re dealing with bunch of big fat liars, so who knows for sure. [https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-wanted-uss-john-mccain-out-of-sight-during-trump-japan-visit-11559173470](https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-wanted-uss-john-mccain-out-of-sight-during-trump-japan-visit-11559173470)? > (That WSJ article cites conflicting reports about acting DS Shanahan’s involvement.) > > The reasonable inference is that they thought he’d do/say something stupid if he were surprised by seeing the ship’s name… Kevin Drum: [For the Record: Here’s the Email Telling the Navy to Hide the USS John McCain – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/05/for-the-record-heres-the-email-telling-the-navy-to-hide-the-uss-john-mccain/) > Robert Farley: [McCain Not Revisited - Lawyers, Guns & Money](http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/05/mccain-not-revisited) That’s actually worse; it confirms that the upper echelons of government know what a man-baby he is and lack the nerve to come up with any response but to indulge him. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/52 "2019-05-31T20:21:15Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Which of course raises the question of which is worse. The president ordering an infantile action, or a president whose deportment is such that his staff can anticipate that he would desire an infantile action. Either way, we loose. The fact that Trump described whoever instigated the action as “well meaning” speaks volumes about him. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/53 "2019-05-31T20:22:52Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Every time you think he can’t go any lower, he does. > > [Navy reportedly tried hiding name of USS John McCain warship with a Tarp during Trump’s visit.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/navy-reportedly-tried-hiding-name-of-uss-john-mccain-warship-with-a-tarp-during-trumps-visit.html) > > BTW, the ship is named for the senator and his father and grandfather but I’m sure Trump had no idea about that. At this point, the limbo bar is down so low a quark couldn’t squeeze under it. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/54 "2019-05-31T20:25:13Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I have a good idea who they can name the next garbage scow for. As well, I can think his name would make a fine euphemism for toilet. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have to use the Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/55 "2019-05-31T20:50:07Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > As well, I can think his name would make a fine euphemism for toilet. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have to use the Trump. Trump already means ‘fart’ in British slang. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/56 "2019-05-31T20:51:30Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > As well, I can think his name would make a fine euphemism for toilet. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have to use the Trump. “Dr. Seuss” it some: > [@](#): > > Why am I in a frump? Because I must take a dump in the trump. Harump! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/57 "2019-05-31T20:51:46Z")
And don’t forget Newt’s coinage “President Trumpo”…the sixth Marx Brother that Minnie wished she’d aborted. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/58 "2019-05-31T20:54:58Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > As well, I can think his name would make a fine euphemism for toilet. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have to use the Trump. Kinky Friedman (yes, the Kinky Friedman who performs with The Texas Jewboys and who ran as a write-in candidate a few years ago for Texas Governor [campaign slogan: “How hard can it be?”]) wrote a series of mystery novels. The main character, who was named Kinky Friedman, used the word Nixon to mean shit, as in “The cat took a Nixon in my shoe.” ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/59 "2019-05-31T21:13:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “Dr. Seuss” it some: Tears of laughter just ran down my leg. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/60 "2019-05-31T22:00:49Z")
Only a moron would think that having a ship named after the McCains in the background would make Trump look bad. It would only be bad if Trump would react badly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749.md?page=4)