# Trump wanted USS John McCain hidden in Japan

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**Created:** [May 30, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749 "2019-05-30T01:52:24Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/61 "2019-05-31T22:42:26Z")

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Reading the comments I cannot help but note that the English language desperately needs a concept like [vorauseilender Gehorsam](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorauseilender_Gehorsam). It is just what this situation boils down to. You may notice that Wikipedia has no translation for this entry except into Japanese.

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So it was someone in the white house military office (never heard of it) who made a decision so stupid that it looked like something Trump would do. Cool. I hope they have lots of “Ain’t We Proud Of Ourselves?” medals to pass around.

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> As well, I can think his name would make a fine euphemism for toilet. Now, if you’ll excuse me I have to use the Trump.

I’ve quoted this from a 1989 [Dave Barry article](https://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article1936480.html) before:

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> … “Trump” sounds like the noise emitted by livestock with gastric disorders (“Stand back, Earl! That cow’s starting to Trump!”).

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I don’t think this was Trumps idea. His idea was to rename a bigger ship the USS Trump and then float it next to USS McCain. Then gloat about how much better his ship is.

Then he’d probably blow up the McCain.

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I’d be okay with the USPS next week issuing a $50 postage stamp with his picture (not McCain’s, the A-HFS).

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/66 "2019-06-01T01:12:40Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I don’t think this was Trumps idea. His idea was to rename a bigger ship the USS Trump and then float it next to USS McCain. Then gloat about how much better his ship is.
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> Then he’d probably blow up the McCain.

No, he’d float an old whaleboat named Trump, then lie about its size compared to the McCain, bemoaning all the “new-fangled stuff” that keeps the McCain from performing as well as the Trump.

And his supporters would believe.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/67 "2019-06-01T01:28:40Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So it was someone in the white house military office (never heard of it) who made a decision so stupid that it looked like something Trump would do. Cool. I hope they have lots of “Ain’t We Proud Of Ourselves?” medals to pass around.

Lt. Col. John Barron.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/68 "2019-06-01T12:46:52Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Tarp picture here
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> [White House Wanted USS John McCain 'Out Of Sight' During Trump's Japan Visit: Reports | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/uss-john-mccain-donald-trump_n_5cef1823e4b00cfa1965c84e)

No, it’s not.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/69 "2019-06-01T13:25:30Z")

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> No, it’s not.

Yes, it is.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/70 "2019-06-01T13:44:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yes, it is.

Where? I don’t see the picture.

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> Where? I don’t see the picture.

[This is the picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7xcJXZXUAAoAMA?format=jpg&name=small) in Meghan McCain’s tweet, in the middle of the article.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/72 "2019-06-01T14:22:32Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [This is the picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7xcJXZXUAAoAMA?format=jpg&name=small) in Meghan McCain’s tweet, in the middle of the article.

Can’t imagine what the service men and women on that ship must think. What a dishonorable thing to do.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/73 "2019-06-01T14:24:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [This is the picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7xcJXZXUAAoAMA?format=jpg&name=small) in Meghan McCain’s tweet, in the middle of the article.

Thank you for the picture, but it doesn’t appear in the linked article.

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/IwO4Lfv.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/IwO4Lfv)

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/74 "2019-06-01T14:30:02Z")

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> Thank you for the picture, but it doesn’t appear in the linked article.
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/IwO4Lfv)

On my browser, where the article quotes Meghan McCain’s tweet, there is a picture. Maybe you have some overzealous security/ad settings preventing it from being displayed.

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> Thank you for the picture, but it doesn’t appear in the linked article.
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/IwO4Lfv)

[![](https://i.imgur.com/removed.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/removed.png)

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/76 "2019-06-01T14:37:13Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> On my browser, where the article quotes Meghan McCain’s tweet, there is a picture. Maybe you have some overzealous security/ad settings preventing it from being displayed.

OK, I can see it if I click the link in her tweet. Interesting, I’m using Firefox with just the normal settings.

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Navy says they got the request but denies the tarp was used.

[Navy acknowledges request on USS John S. McCain made for Trump visit | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/navy-uss-mccain/index.html)

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Navy says they got the request but denies the tarp was used.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/navy-uss-mccain/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/navy-uss-mccain/index.html)

“A request was made to the U.S. Navy to minimize the visibility of USS John S. McCain, however, all ships remained in their normal configuration during the President’s visit…”

They are not denying that they ever used the tarp. They’re just saying the tarp wasn’t up during the President’s visit. Someone could have put it up, then someone else ordered them to take it off.

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Those Republicans, always respecting our troops. Not like those mean old Democrats.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wanted-uss-john-mccain-hidden-in-japan/834749/80 "2019-06-01T17:54:16Z")

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I saw this meme on social media. They should have temporarily renamed it “USS Bone Spurs” and moored it in plain view.

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