# Trump will be re-elected -- "Americans are a stupid people. We believe whatever we're told." **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 21, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844 "2019-04-21T09:50:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/101 "2019-04-24T14:27:35Z")
Bear in mind that only a mere two years after Bush left office, Republicans gained 63 House seats in the 2010 midterms; the largest-ever gain of House seats in electoral history. Plus a gain of six Senate seats. And all it took was Obama and healthcare reform. So I wouldn’t put too much faith in the notion that having Trump stay in power will destroy the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/102 "2019-04-24T16:46:43Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Bear in mind that only a mere two years after Bush left office, Republicans gained 63 House seats in the 2010 midterms; the largest-ever gain of House seats in electoral history. Plus a gain of six Senate seats. **And all it took was Obama and healthcare reform.** > > So I wouldn’t put too much faith in the notion that having Trump stay in power will destroy the Republican Party. Bolding mine. It’s not accurate to say the \*\*only \*\*reasons for the big swing were Obama and Obamacare. Lots of those seats were traditionally GOP-held seats that swung blue in the shock of the 2008 economic collapse, then reverted red two years later. But you are right that GOP voters are pretty forgiving when their party screws them over. Just two years after GWB steered the ship into the rocks, they were right back in the fold. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/103 "2019-04-24T20:33:11Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Probably because the SDMB leans so far left that there isn’t much criticism of Dems here. What little there is often enough is responded to with “both sides” arguments that I’m a bit surprised you’d try to make an “only” claim. I would love to return to a world in which I felt as though criticizing progressives was worth my time, but the fact is that the government and society are mostly influenced by the political right wing, which barely veils its authoritarian and antidemocratic tendencies at this point. Democrats have their problems, but the main one I see is that they’re losing elections. That bothers me. It bothers me that Democrats haven’t figured out how to connect with more Americans, but on the other hand, it troubles me more than more Americans haven’t figured out that unless you’re a theocrat or wealthy, the Democratic party is the party that is most likely protecting your well being, regardless of what you think to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/104 "2019-04-24T21:07:26Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Bolding mine. > > It’s not accurate to say the \*\*only \*\*reasons for the big swing were Obama and Obamacare. Lots of those seats were traditionally GOP-held seats that swung blue in the shock of the 2008 economic collapse, then reverted red two years later. > > But you are right that GOP voters are pretty forgiving when their party screws them over. Just two years after GWB steered the ship into the rocks, they were right back in the fold. It’s not just the republicans who were to blame; it was independents who bought into the whole trope about Obama being a “socialist”. What has worried me all along, and maybe _the_ reason I am chicken little, is that American voters (we as a country) are just idiots. I’m sorry, but I just don’t know any other way to put it. Two years into a recession that was obviously caused by corporate greed, and American voters essentially vote AGAINST healthcare reform and an AGAINST economic stimulus – because apparently debt is only a problem when you have a black guy running it up. We keep voting for stupid, stupid people for stupid, stupid reasons, and we vote the smart ones off the island. I don’t just blame our education system either. We have Google - we have access to more information in a few minutes than the average human who has ever walked the earth has had access to in the average lifetime - maybe 20 lifetimes. A little bit of curiosity wouldn’t hurt. We deserve Trump, and we deserve all the shit he is going to do to this country. Not all of us individually, but collectively, hell yeah we do. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/105 "2019-04-25T05:32:26Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What has worried me all along, and maybe _the_ reason I am chicken little, is that American voters (we as a country) are just idiots. I’m sorry, but I just don’t know any other way to put it. > > … We have Google - we have access to more information in a few minutes than the average human who has ever walked the earth has had access to in the average lifetime - maybe 20 lifetimes… The “Information Highway” turns out to be a bunch of cul-de-sacs as it applies to political information. A hundred years ago, junkies of Hearst newspapers would sit elbow-to-elbow with readers of Pulitzer newspapers, and there could be common agreement about basic facts. Now we live in bubbles. We hear mainstream media talk of how damaging the Mueller Report is to Trump, while 83% of Fox Potatoes think it exonerates him. Bad actors like the Kremlin or the GOP can poison the Information Highway with lies. Google and social media can be hindrance rather than help: Type “Tell me about Elizabeth Warren” and your click-history may be examined before doing the search: Google wants to improve its ad revenue by feeding you the stories it thinks you want to click on. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/106 "2019-04-25T06:02:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It’s not just the republicans who were to blame; it was independents who bought into the whole trope about Obama being a “socialist”. > > What has worried me all along, and maybe _the_ reason I am chicken little, is that American voters (we as a country) are just idiots. I’m sorry, but I just don’t know any other way to put it. > > Two years into a recession that was obviously caused by corporate greed, and American voters essentially vote AGAINST healthcare reform and an AGAINST economic stimulus – because apparently debt is only a problem when you have a black guy running it up. > > We keep voting for stupid, stupid people for stupid, stupid reasons, and we vote the smart ones off the island. I don’t just blame our education system either. We have Google - we have access to more information in a few minutes than the average human who has ever walked the earth has had access to in the average lifetime - maybe 20 lifetimes. A little bit of curiosity wouldn’t hurt. We deserve Trump, and we deserve all the shit he is going to do to this country. Not all of us individually, but collectively, hell yeah we do. Again, average IQ is 100. Take an IQ test and see how you do. Now think if you score a 115 or above you are in the top 15%. If you score a 130 you are in the top 2%. Now I am not sure what your IQ is but it’s probably at least 115. That means 85% of the population can’t think as well as you. But they can all vote. Now you should begin to realize why talking smart and nuanced is not necessarily a winning strategy in a democracy. Appealing to emotion works. Communication that is simpler can be very effective. No one is reading a thesis or books in order to choose a candidate. I shouldn’t say no one. However, whatever the number is, it’s not large. ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/107 "2019-04-25T08:03:43Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Obama got put over the top by [record black turnout](https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/12/27/168155895/election-study-black-turnout-may-have-surpassed-whites). It’s just that simple. Blacks voted for him because he was black. Sadly, this is about the depth of analysis that most voters _ **routinely** _ engage in. > > Trump won in 2016 because (a) most Republicans would vote the R ticket even if the candidate was an orange tufted baboon, and (b) there were enough xenophobes, bigots, and white nationalists to put him over the top. > > What greatly compounds the problem is the generally very low voter turnout, so that whatever voting blocs the candidate happens to attract have a disproportionate influence. Well by that mark Pete Buttigieg will win in 2020 because being LGBT is more okay today than it was in 2016 and earlier. And affixing the “queer” label is what the hip kids do these days to be “coo” with the cool cats on the block. I’d argue there’s more LGBT and queer or questioning (don’t make me simplify this as I know next to nothing about gays or whatever) than black people or other ethnic and racial minorities combined. And those who are non-heterosexual and of a minority, be it ethnic or racial, will likely vote for an ally over an old man with a closet gay VP who’d probably burn a gay person if the law allowed him to. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/108 "2019-04-25T16:28:36Z")
People don’t vote for Trump because they’re stupid. I think they do it to see chaos that injures someone else more than them. Rural revenge. If it goes downhill they are better off relatively. It’s the only play they think they have. And if there is a fascist in the race, it will be a dog whistle to evey one of them. They all will be looking to the same solution, and the more they look, and find each other, the more electoral success that fascist with all those eyeballs will have. We need electoral college, and gerrymander reform, and the census must be protected from Republican abuses. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/109 "2019-04-25T20:53:34Z")
Literacy tests for being able to vote worked out well (:rolleyes:). What’s the alternative to letting stupid people have a vote? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/110 "2019-04-25T21:53:22Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Literacy tests for being able to vote worked out well (:rolleyes:). What’s the alternative to letting stupid people have a vote? U.S.A. muddled through for almost two centuries with no President as grotesque as Trump. _ **We need to combat the severity of the lying we see today, and the unprecedented belief in even the craziest of the lies.** _ No, I have no simple proposal on how to achieve that. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/111 "2019-04-25T22:05:18Z")
Some fellow Democrats on Facebook are just as screaming, teeth spitting aggressive as Trump supporters. I fear that this hate of the other side will become the political way in the United States. If this “mean people” method worked for Trump, may it not work for other candidates? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/112 "2019-04-25T22:09:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > U.S.A. muddled through for almost two centuries with no President as grotesque as Trump. _ **We need to combat the severity of the lying we see today, and the unprecedented belief in even the craziest of the lies.** _ > > No, I have no simple proposal on how to achieve that. Well, you yourself hinted at one area of possible action here: > [@septimus](#): > > … Type “Tell me about Elizabeth Warren” and your click-history may be examined before doing the search: Google wants to improve its ad revenue by feeding you the stories it thinks you want to click on. This is a real problem. These companies purport to be sources of information, but of course they are actually merely sources of re-enforcement-of-existing-belief. Because that leads to higher revenues. These companies are massively profitable (well, the big ones, anyway), yet escape regulation by posing as something they are not. Today we learned a bit about that profitability: > [@](#): > > Zuckerberg, Ballmer Gain Combined $5.1 Billion After Strong Microsoft, Facebook Earnings > The net worths of big tech’s blue chip billionaires jumped Thursday as soon as stock markets opened. The gains came after both Facebook and Microsoft reported better than expected revenue growth on Wednesday after the market closed. Altogether the value of Facebook and Microsoft shares held by 27 billionaires rose $7.4 billion, thanks to the strong earnings reports. > > The biggest gainer by far was Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, the largest individual shareholder in the social network he founded in a Harvard dorm room 15 years ago. Zuckerberg’s fortune rose $3.9 billion on Thursday to $71.8 billion. > > Despite concerns over its platforms’ data security and privacy, Facebook’s quarterly revenue exceeded $15 billion, a 26% year-over-year increase. The company estimates that 2.1 billion people use one of its services every day. Its share price on Thursday rose 5.8% to $193.26. … [https://www.forbes.com/sites/cartercoudriet/2019/04/25/zuckerberg-ballmer-microsoft-facebook-earnings-billionaire/#2ba7e7cb3c23](https://www.forbes.com/sites/cartercoudriet/2019/04/25/zuckerberg-ballmer-microsoft-facebook-earnings-billionaire/#2ba7e7cb3c23) It’s human nature to cling to a belief that we are fully rational. We dismiss the idea that a Google or Facebook algorithm, created to increase the wealth of Google and Facebook, could be influencing our perception of what’s true and what’s false. But the fact is that Google and Facebook, to an extent no one wants to admit, is defining what’s true and what’s false. And they are virtually unregulated. Yes, they pay piddling little fines here and there—but that doesn’t impact their policies. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/113 "2019-04-26T02:36:22Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Obama got elected because his opponents weren’t willing to tell outright lies and exploit the stupidity referred to in the OP, as well as to court white nationalists. Damn it! So Barry only won—not once, but twice—because the GOP made critical errors nominating two different candidates with actual morals. Looks like they wised up after that. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/114 "2019-04-26T03:07:03Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Damn it! So Barry only won—not once, but twice—because the GOP made critical errors nominating two different candidates with actual morals. Looks like they wised up after that. One moment that I will never forget from McCain: > **[Watch John McCain defend Barack Obama against a racist voter in 2008](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/25/17782572/john-mccain-barack-obama-statement-2008-video)** > > A Minnesota woman said Obama was "Arab." McCain took the microphone from her. > [@](#): > > “I can’t trust Obama. I have read about him, and he’s not, um, he’s an Arab,” a woman said to McCain at a town hall meeting in Lakeville, Minnesota in October 2008. > > McCain grabbed the microphone from her, cutting her off. “No, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].” > > Of course, being of Arab descent and a “decent family man” have nothing to do with one another, and are not mutually exclusive. McCain’s response could have been better — he could have pointed out that it does not matter whether someone is Muslim or Arab or anything else — but taking away the microphone from the woman and defending his opponent was a powerful moment. > > … > > In 2013 Obama called McCain a “person of classic integrity” who’s “willing to say things regardless of the politics.” That wound up including McCain’s no vote in the summer of 2017 that sank the GOP’s efforts to repeal one of Obama’s signature pieces of legislation, the Affordable Care Act. > > In a statement on Saturday, Obama reacted to McCain’s death, saying that for all of his differences with McCain, the pair shared “a fidelity to something higher — the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched and sacrificed.” He said they saw their political battles as “an opportunity to serve as stewards” of those ideals. > > “Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did,” he said. “But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt.” Trump does not have that kind of courage. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/115 "2019-04-26T03:51:06Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > U.S.A. muddled through for almost two centuries with no President as grotesque as Trump. _ **We need to combat the severity of the lying we see today, and the unprecedented belief in even the craziest of the lies.** _ > > No, I have no simple proposal on how to achieve that. You realize that pure democracy was not something the wise founders desired. Well not only do we have more positions that are elected by the people we also have damn near free mass and global media. Without clawing back some of the concessions to more direct democracy you aren’t going to be able to counter increasingly sophisticated propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/116 "2019-04-26T04:20:20Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You realize that pure democracy was not something the wise founders desired. Well not only do we have more positions that are elected by the people we also have damn near free mass and global media. Without clawing back some of the concessions to more direct democracy you aren’t going to be able to counter increasingly sophisticated propaganda. On the contrary, we need a greater degree of direct democracy including increasing the size of the House of Representatives, a method to approve constitutional amendments by national referendums, automatic voter registration, and the like. You mention high IQ people abovethread, but there’s no reason to think that those with above-average IQ have any inherently better judgement in politics. On the contrary, if you look at the “engineer’s fallacy” many people of above average intelligence are prey to popular ideological fashions of their day such as eugenics, Marxism, and libertarianism which have sophisticated though ultimately fallacious structures of justification. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/117 "2019-04-26T04:44:22Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > On the contrary, we need a greater degree of direct democracy including increasing the size of the House of Representatives, a method to approve constitutional amendments by national referendums, automatic voter registration, and the like. You mention high IQ people abovethread, but there’s no reason to think that those with above-average IQ have any inherently better judgement in politics. On the contrary, if you look at the “engineer’s fallacy” many people of above average intelligence are prey to popular ideological fashions of their day such as eugenics, Marxism, and libertarianism which have sophisticated though ultimately fallacious structures of justification. I mention the differing IQ not to pick on people but to highlight that what is effective communication for one audience can be counterproductive with another. And that can lead to interesting outcomes. I’d be for larger house and automatic voter registration. However, I think national referendum for amendments is crazy. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/118 "2019-04-26T12:42:49Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > On the contrary, we need a greater degree of direct democracy including increasing the size of the House of Representatives… Why? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/119 "2019-04-26T14:07:43Z")
How deep into the weeds do we want to go? Why smaller congressional districts are more representative? How some type of proportional representation makes for better elections? I’m still a little vague on the topic rules of this board so I’m not sure about whether these discussions are pertinent to this particular thread but these are great issues that we could debate almost endlessly. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/120 "2019-04-26T14:39:29Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I mention the differing IQ not to pick on people but to highlight that what is effective communication for one audience can be counterproductive with another. And that can lead to interesting outcomes. > > I’d be for larger house and automatic voter registration. **However, I think national referendum for amendments is crazy**. We don’t often agree, but I wholeheartedly concur with the text in bold. Direct democracy is just nutso - ask Californians how they feel about direct democracy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844.md?page=7)