# Trump will become a noun, like Quisling.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 17, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062 "2018-07-17T03:46:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/1 "2018-07-17T03:46:00Z")

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I’m declaring it as of today. It’s hard to fathom but he is somehow unaware of this. I can’t imagine scenarios that avoid this happening.

My question is will it be that way for the names “Republican” and “conservative” in the future? We have seen wagons hitched. They need to be unhitched to prevent becoming avatars, if it is even possible to stop it. Will this happen?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/2 "2018-07-17T05:29:51Z")

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It already is.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/3 "2018-07-17T06:04:38Z")

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I tried to get “Darvish” as a synonym for fucking up after Dodgers WS game 7. 😃 😃  
I would say to my CA friends, “You forgot your wallet on a date last night? You really darvished.”

[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/4 "2018-07-17T07:25:13Z")

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Loser Donald doesn’t deserve to have a word named after him.

May I suggest _damnatio memoriae_ instead?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/5 "2018-07-17T12:27:05Z")

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“Trump” was already British juvenile slang for “fart”. That no longer seems adequate, though.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/6 "2018-07-17T13:32:46Z")

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Maybe the game Snakes and Ladders could be renamed Trumps and Obamas, and it could be reframed as a morality tale.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/7 "2018-07-17T14:16:25Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Maybe the game Snakes and Ladders could be renamed Trumps and Obamas, and it could be reframed as a morality tale.

I like it. One goal is to climb & progress forward, another goal is to slide backward (or pull out a pop-o-matic and call the game something else). Potentially everyone who plays can be a winner depending on what they want.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/8 "2018-07-17T14:27:34Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Maybe the game Snakes and Ladders could be renamed Trumps and Obamas…

You mean Chutes & Ladders? Was that a typo, or am I missing a pun or something?

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/9 "2018-07-17T14:28:41Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> I like it. One goal is to climb & progress forward, another goal is to slide backward (or pull out a pop-o-matic and call the game something else). Potentially everyone who plays can be a winner depending on what they want.

Yep, it’s a game both sides of the political spectrum could enjoy. Reaching the top would mean a Democrat presidential victory and reaching the bottom would mean a Republican presidential victory.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/10 "2018-07-17T14:30:44Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> You mean Chutes & Ladders? Was that a typo, or am I missing a pun or something?

[Snakes and Ladders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_and_Ladders).

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/11 "2018-07-17T14:31:16Z")

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It’s already a great adjective. When something is “trumped up”, it is made up and not true. Sound familiar?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/12 "2018-07-17T14:58:59Z")

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then there’s this:

trump·er·y  
ˈtrəmp(ə)rē/  
archaic  
noun  
noun: trumpery; plural noun: trumperies

```
1.
attractive articles of little value or use.
    practices or beliefs that are superficially or visually appealing but have little real value or worth.

```

adjective  
adjective: trumpery

```
1.
showy but worthless.
```

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/13 "2018-07-17T16:16:41Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> then there’s this:
> 
> trump·er·y  
> ˈtrəmp(ə)rē/  
> archaic  
> noun  
> noun: trumpery; plural noun: trumperies
> 
> ```
> 1.
> attractive articles of little value or use.
> practices or beliefs that are superficially or visually appealing but have little real value or worth.
> 
> ```
> 
> adjective  
> adjective: trumpery
> 
> ```
> 1.
> showy but worthless.
> 
> ```

All that needs is his picture.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/14 "2018-07-17T16:25:10Z")

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It’s kind of unfortunate for my prediction that it’s already a servicable word for the guy, in more than one way too.

But the meanings don’t capture the moment as has been observed already here. His name ought to become like Hitler, Quisling, or Manson, Arnold. A word that was needed because it scraped the bottom of what we called human behavior. A new low gets a new word.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/15 "2018-07-17T16:35:31Z")

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Arnold ? I would’ve guessed that most people in America think somebody else than Benedict. And in the rest of the world pretty much nobody has even heard of him.

Also Manson is hijacked by Marilyn M ( even though he took it from Charles M ), but kids today…

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/16 "2018-07-17T17:42:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> “Trump” was already British juvenile slang for “fart”. That no longer seems adequate, though.

Ok. How about “Taking a trump?”

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/17 "2018-07-17T20:30:11Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Arnold ? I would’ve guessed that most people in America think somebody else than Benedict. And in the rest of the world pretty much nobody has even heard of him.
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> Also Manson is hijacked by Marilyn M ( even though he took it from Charles M ), but kids today…

Yeah, I meant the two names together: Benedict Arnold. Arnold would have been hard to reserve just for one purpose.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/18 "2018-07-17T23:00:32Z")

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I’ve been thinking that we should go ahead and do something similar with Pence. In that case, it needs to be slang for something relating to anatomy, or sex…sort of along the lines of santorum.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/19 "2018-07-17T23:32:19Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> I’ve been thinking that we should go ahead and do something similar with Pence. In that case, it needs to be slang for something relating to anatomy, or sex…sort of along the lines of santorum.

The word “trumpence” occurred to me in 2016. Like “Feed the birds, trumpence a bag” or something, but it never congealed.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-become-a-noun-like-quisling/818062/20 "2018-07-18T00:00:21Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> The word “trumpence” occurred to me in 2016. Like “Feed the birds, trumpence a bag” or something, but it never congealed.

You should try again, using it to describe the windfall that the average taxpayer got from the Greatest Tax Reform of All Time™.

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