# Trump will invade Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567 "2025-10-01T14:02:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/1 "2025-10-01T14:02:46Z")
Trump has the examples he needs. Netanyahu and Putin have not suffered politically from their blatant invasions. Same for Trump sending troops into US cities. You take some flak, but when it’s done it can’t be undone, you win. Also, he has the example of France in WW2. Faced with the destructive fact of war, France chose capitulation. Given the problem, I am certain the US military can come up with a quick, cheap take over plan. A few seal teams to secure the people and places of governance. Rapid destruction of air combat capability. Occupation of air and rail control centers. Then a rambling delusional Presidential demand for unconditional surrender to avoid destructive bombardment. The fact that this is ridiculous and outrages only makes it more likely. Trump needs a crisis before next November. Is this it? How would the Canadians respond? How would US citizens respond? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/2 "2025-10-01T14:10:41Z")
Can’t countenance this yet. Would have to see it actually begin to believe it’s possible. Should a takeover be attempted, it’s a certainty that it won’t be quick and cheap. That’s not possible. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/3 "2025-10-01T14:11:45Z")
I think he will go for the “internal enemy” first. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/4 "2025-10-01T14:12:42Z")
He already said that’s practice. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/5 "2025-10-01T14:15:59Z")
Depending on how that goes he may go for invading Canada, or Greenland, or Venezuela. Of those 3 Canada is the one more capable (if not much) of fighting back. Venezuela is the one with less international allies (Greenland is part of Denmark, which is part of the EU). So, after or during his National Reorganization Process to get rid of the internal subversives he will probably bomb Venezuela if he needs to score cheap points. After that is Greenland and after that, if he’s still alive/in power, Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/6 "2025-10-01T14:21:29Z")
Canada is the closest culturally. Using the model of France, he leaves the Canadian government and economy intact and only requires that they support his goals - we absorb the military, combine some agencies, merge the currencies . ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/7 "2025-10-01T14:23:47Z")
I honestly think it would be a complete shitshow and might actually get him impeached. The U.S. has not fought a battle on our territory since the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941, and has not fought a war within the borders of the contiguous states since the Civil War. Unprovoked war on our border with a peaceful neighbor is unthinkable to me, and I think it would result in a shock to the country. I also don’t think Canada is going to just roll over. And the world would treat the U.S. as a pariah state. I actually think taking over Greenland is far more likely—mainly because almost nobody lives there and they couldn’t do much about it—and even that would have lots of repercussions. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/8 "2025-10-01T14:27:05Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I actually think taking over Greenland is far more likely We do have a foot print there. There would be a lot of soul searching before anyone seriously attacked the US. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/9 "2025-10-01T14:27:28Z")
Are nuclear powers France and UK going to sit out an invasion of their closest cultural (not to mention NATO) ally in North America? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/10 "2025-10-01T14:27:31Z")
I think it’s a bridge too far _in the current situation_, once the situation has deteriorated for a couple of years or so… who knows. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/11 "2025-10-01T14:30:25Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Canada is the closest culturally. Using the model of France, he leaves the Canadian government and economy intact and only requires that they support his goals - we absorb the military, combine some agencies, merge the currencies . I just don’t see this happening. The Canadians would never stand for this. The U.S. would have to forcibly occupy the whole country. Even if the Canadian military was quickly defeated there would be retaliatory guerrilla and insurgency attacks that would never end. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/12 "2025-10-01T14:31:08Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Are nuclear powers France and UK going to sit out an invasion of their closest cultural (not to mention NATO) ally in North America? What would they bomb? How would they bomb it? Remember Russia is Trumps’ ally. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/13 "2025-10-01T14:36:07Z")
> [@robby](#): > > The Canadians would never stand for this. That’s the immediate reaction. But begin to weigh the reality of war against the difference in the two life styles involved. I suspect most would accommodate it, the rest take advantage of the opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/14 "2025-10-01T14:39:02Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > What would they bomb? How would they bomb it? They could move their SSBNs within striking distance of the entire East Coast and issue an ultimatum. Not saying they would, but after a US invasion of Canada, all bets are off the table. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/15 "2025-10-01T14:42:01Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > They could park their SSBNs in striking distance That only invites destruction. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/16 "2025-10-01T14:42:43Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > But begin to weigh the reality of war against the difference in the two life styles involved. I suspect most would accommodate it, the rest take advantage of the opportunity. How do you mean? I’m Canadian and as far as I am concerned, I’m way better off here than I would be in the US. Doubly so if Canada is invaded and I’m now a second-class citizen of the US. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/17 "2025-10-01T14:43:20Z")
So does not responding to naked aggression against a friend and ally. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/18 "2025-10-01T14:44:14Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Are nuclear powers France and UK going to sit out an invasion of their closest cultural (not to mention NATO) ally in North America? Probably. There’s nothing they could do besides launch nukes, which would be worse than doing nothing. Canada is more or less impossible to defend from the US’s conventional forces. It would turn into extremely ugly partisan/guerilla warfare against the occupation (which UK/France might well aid and abet). Ugly because the border is effectively impossible to seal in either direction, most Canadians can pass for Americans without much difficulty, and some might not be particularly fastidious about targeting only military targets. I’m optimistic it won’t happen. There is finally a little pushback on the domestic agenda (Newsom, Pritzker, maybe congressional Dems not folding on this shutdown thing) and an actual invasion of Canada is a huge, huge step. If it happens, it will be after the ‘26 and ‘28 elections are turned into shams and Trump’s cemented his power in his third term. Not as unthinkable a scenario as I’d like, but not a fait accompli just yet. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/19 "2025-10-01T14:44:22Z")
If the US enters Canada and gets compliance then any insurrection is against the Canadian police and government. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/20 "2025-10-01T14:45:56Z")
You mean the puppet government set up by the US, or the legitimate government in exile in the UK? Also, wouldn’t be limited to Canadian territory. The insurrection would be happening against the US government on US soil. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567.md?page=2)