# Trump will invade Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567 "2025-10-01T14:02:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/101 "2025-10-02T01:10:40Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > A quick Google shows the US is ~60% against invading Canada. So, that is 40% in favor of. Can you back this up with any poll where it shows that 40% of Americans want to use **military force to invade** Canada? Hell, can you find one that shows 15%? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/102 "2025-10-02T02:23:40Z")
This article is little hard to read because of ads but gives a different and seemingly reasonable perspective: > **[The Long History of U.S.-canada War Plans | PDF | Canada | The United States](https://www.scribd.com/document/865771871/The-Long-History-of-U-S-canada-War-Plans)** > > The document discusses the historical context and strategic considerations surrounding the possibility of war between the U.S. and Canada, despite their long-standing friendship. It highlights past military plans and anxieties, particularly in light... Ideas include: – U.S. threats against Canada historically seem serious at the time but do not pan out. So risk is real but low. – If Trump attacks Canada, it would only be after conquest of Greenland – The U.S. would probably go after artic areas of Canada, near Greenland, partly because there already is disagreement of who owns what waterways there.. I had not thought of the the last point above, but suspect this author is correct. Trump is militarily risk adverse. I now think a Battle of Parliament Hill is the least likely scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/103 "2025-10-02T02:29:52Z")
I oppose Trump as much as anyone, but I get the impression some posters here actually **want** Trump to make a military move on Canada, or rattle the saber hard. Like they want it to happen, to prove their point, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/104 "2025-10-02T02:43:49Z")
If Trump ordered the military to attack Canada, I expect they’d just salute and _do_ it; we’ve been told over and over that the military will save us from the evil rightwingers, but it never actually happens. And the geography and power disparity means it would be over quickly. As for the American public and political establishment; going by the track record so far they will just collectively roll over yet again. Now the occupation? _That_ would be a messy, bloody disaster. It’s a given it would be planned and executed horribly, the Canadians would be resisting both violently and non-violently, and Trump at the top would be screaming for a massacre of “traitors” (since any Canadian who doesn’t submit is a “traitor”). ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/105 "2025-10-02T03:14:54Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I oppose Trump as much as anyone,… I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I don’t believe this to be close to accurate. > [@](#): > > …but I get the impression some posters here actually **want** Trump to make a military move on Canada, or rattle the saber hard. Can you point to the posts/posters that leave you with the impression that they want this to occur so that they can speak to it? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/106 "2025-10-02T11:35:54Z")
He could have the squeaky wheel tank lead the column, and they’ll be laughing so hard that they won’t be able to fight back. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/107 "2025-10-02T12:27:21Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > U.S. threats against Canada historically seem serious at the time but do not pan out. So risk is real but low like global climate change, things aren’t like they used to be politically either. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/108 "2025-10-02T15:31:11Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > He could have the squeaky wheel tank lead the column, and they’ll be laughing so hard that they won’t be able to fight back Au contraire, we’d send out the biggest group of hosers we can assemble, to lubricate it for them. “Dere ya go, Buddy, dat’s how you keep a tank in shape. Damn shame, they don’t teach you guys dat…” ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/109 "2025-10-02T15:37:14Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > some posters here actually **want** Trump to make a military move on Canada, or rattle the saber hard. Like they want it to happen, to prove their point, or something. I don’t know if you’re Canadian or not but, assuming you’re not, we, up here in Canada, find Trump’s rhetoric, combined with the destructive results of his tariffs, to be extremely concerning and threatening, if not existential. We absolutely do not want this to happen, but we also would prefer the pre-2024 status quo. And in the current Trump-world, nothing is realistically predictable and any actions and events could be on the table. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/110 "2025-10-02T19:55:27Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > And in the current Trump-world, nothing is realistically predictable and any actions and events could be on the table. Yeah. Trump is clearly neither intelligent nor stable, and has zero concern for moral standards or laws of any kind. So saying “he’d never do that” is unrealistic. Maybe he will invade Canada. Maybe he won’t. Maybe he’ll attack Greenland or Mexico instead. Maybe he’ll decide to attack some other country people aren’t even thinking of right now, for reasons that will make sense only to him. Who knows? Not even Trump, I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/111 "2025-10-02T20:15:38Z")
A gentle reminder that Canadian soldiers were particularly known for their brutality in both WWI and WWII. Canadian snipers are also particularly well regarded, and their Sniper program is among the best (if not the best) in the world. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/112 "2025-10-02T20:18:26Z")
I would encourage Canada to remodel the White House, with fire. For the second time. (Ok, I know, I know, it was the British, the first time, but a golden glow as the plastic decor goes up in flames would be glorious) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/113 "2025-10-02T22:00:13Z")
It’s been a hectic day of work, and I’ve just returned to this thread. I was about to say… > [@Dorjan](#): > > A gentle reminder that Canadian soldiers were particularly known for their brutality in both WWI and WWII. But you beat me to it. _Never_ piss off a Canadian! ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/114 "2025-10-02T22:11:31Z")
Indeed. > [@Canadian sniper sets world record for longest kill (11,319 feet)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/canadian-sniper-sets-world-record-for-longest-kill-11-319-feet/789784): > > [Killing an ISIS terrorist in Iraq from 2.2 miles away](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2017/06/23/Report-Canadian-army-sniper-sets-record-for-longest-kill-shot/8671498110390/), and shattering the old record by more than 3,000 feet. With this,[three of the four longest sniper kills in history have been achieved by Canadians.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/23/how-canadas-tiny-military-produced-deadly-record-breaking-snipers/?utm_term=.1e585535b8b3) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/115 "2025-10-02T22:41:36Z")
But the thought of every soldier being able to do 50 pushups and 10 pullups is certain to make us surrender. Pointing out that the consequences will be negative is useless since Trump is incapable of thinking about consequences. Or thinking, period. And now that he filled the top of the government with incompetent sycophants, nothing they do will go the way they claim. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/116 "2025-10-02T22:45:04Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Trump’s rhetoric, combined with the destructive results of his tariffs, to be extremely concerning and threatening, if not existential. That is the point. The man is unhinged. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/117 "2025-10-02T22:49:42Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Pointing out that the consequences will be negative is useless since Trump is incapable of thinking about consequences. Or thinking, period. True, but consequences have a way of penetrating even the densest mentalities of the most intransigent morons. They may think that digging for gold in the hull of their ship with a pick axe is a terrific idea, but when they’re up to their ears in seawater, reality has a way of asserting itself. Trump and his sycophants have only been in office about 9 months, and enormous systems like the US economy and its institutions have enormous inertia, but even now the cracks are showing. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/118 "2025-10-02T23:00:05Z")
Trump was raised under the personal influence of [Dr. Norman Vincent Peale](https://www.bruce-mcgraw.com/trump-and-norman-vincent-peale/). He believes that his belief/will creates reality. No matter how high the water, if it is not within his belief system, it is not there. Conversely what he believes becomes real by virtue of his will. In example: he has stopped 7 wars; DC is free of crime. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/119 "2025-10-03T01:29:35Z")
Erik the Viking has something to say about that. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ee6-sI9rdtA/hqdefault.jpg "Eric the Viking: This is Not Happening") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee6-sI9rdtA) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/120 "2025-10-03T01:46:20Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Just enough to capture those in power and the TV stations in the main cities. Who the hell cares about TV stations anymore? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567.md?page=7)