# Trump will invade Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567 "2025-10-01T14:02:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/141 "2025-10-05T18:07:46Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > NATO has no intention of getting involved: Foreign leaders have figured out that the way to deal with el donald is by carefully planning and extensively rehearsing their praise and worship for the lord and savior. After that, he will agree with anything until the next leader meets with him. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/142 "2025-10-05T19:08:58Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > One thing that I haven’t seen mentioned: What would NATO’s reaction be to the invasion of one of its member nations by another? Send a sternly worded letter? There isn’t really much else they _can_ do. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/143 "2025-10-05T20:08:45Z")
Oh, it would be the end of NATO entirely. The Euro members would most likely recreate something akin to NATO, probably based on the EU, but it wouldn’t be NATO anymore. There’s just no way to maintain a defensive alliance when one member invades another completely unprovoked. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/144 "2025-10-05T20:29:12Z")
Hell, I’m a 66 year old woman in Michigan. I’d fight on Canada’s side. _Especially_ if they let me be a citizen afterwards. I’ve got family roots in Quebec, I don’t want the us sickness to spread to friends and ancestral family. Canada deserves so much better than the cluster we’ve been saddled with. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/145 "2025-10-05T20:33:15Z")
Sign me up. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/146 "2025-10-05T20:57:06Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > There’s just no way to maintain a defensive alliance when one member invades another completely unprovoked And Canada is particularly bad off. Politically, fighting one European country would be a problem, but it’s physically possible. But there’s no way anyone else in NATO could realistically fight the US anywhere in North America. Probably not South America either. We’ll be on our own. Maybe NATO smuggles us some stuff every now and then, but nothing beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/147 "2025-10-06T03:41:37Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Maybe NATO smuggles us some stuff every now and then, but nothing beyond that. Even that would be really hard; crossing the oceans against US opposition isn’t easy, even trying to be sneaky about it. Especially agaisnt an opponent willing to just blow ships up without bothering to check what’s on board. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/148 "2025-10-06T04:09:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > crossing the oceans against US opposition isn’t easy, even trying to be sneaky about it. Especially agaisnt an opponent willing to just blow ships up without bothering to check what’s on board. It would put Trump in the exact same position Putin is in now. They may have the ability to attack third country’s arms shipments, but that is likely to draw that third country (and its allies) directly into the conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/149 "2025-10-06T05:56:53Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > It would put Trump in the exact same position Putin is in now. They may have the ability to attack third country’s arms shipments, but that is likely to draw that third country (and its allies) directly into the conflict. Why would Trump care? The US is more powerful in every way than Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/150 "2025-10-06T12:33:38Z")
Furthermore a sea blockade is an old tradition, simply declare one, park a fleet on the North Atlantic, another in the North Pacific and according to the laws of war you are allowed to stop any shipment going to the blockaded country. Other means’ legality is not so cut and dried but I don’t think legality would stop Trump from, for example, declaring unrestricted submarine warfare. In other words U.S. naval superiority allows it to stop any help from reaching Canada, while Ukraine having land borders with supporting countries, plus Russian inability to blockade Western Europe prevents Putin from doing the same. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/151 "2025-10-06T12:52:15Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > In other words U.S. naval superiority allows it to stop any help from reaching Canada, while Ukraine having land borders with supporting countries, plus Russian inability to blockade Western Europe prevents Putin from doing the same. Yeah, they could stop anything obviously running guns to Canada, but that doesn’t mean they could stop everything. The US has spent decades and billions of dollars trying to stop drugs from getting into the US, and they haven’t done that. We could smuggle weapons and ammunition the same way. Nothing short of ceasing all container ship deliveries to North America would stop all of that. They could shut down Canadian ports, but so long as US and/or Mexican ports are still working, that just adds an extra layer or two to the smuggling. They might catch 90% of the stuff, but even 10% would support a partisan fighting force striking at targets inside the US. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/152 "2025-10-06T13:11:32Z")
More likely, air and sea traffic will be shut down by jamming communication and navigation frequencies. This isn’t 1860. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/153 "2025-10-06T13:38:58Z")
I think by and large we wouldn’t be trying to smuggle arms into Canada. We’d be trying to smuggle arms into the US. Which is less difficult, as there are a great many of them already there. This wouldn’t be like Ukraine. The Canadian army has no ability to hold territory in the face of an American offensive. It would be asymmetric warfare in a guerilla resistance setting after the US quickly wins the conventional battle, and many of the juiciest targets would be south of the border. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/154 "2025-10-06T13:50:56Z")
Yeah, there’s always blockade running, but the supplies that could be provided that way are a minuscule fraction of the supplies Ukraine receives. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/155 "2025-10-06T14:20:19Z")
Yes, but as been said, this won’t be anything like a conventional war like in Ukraine. An insugency needs a lot less material. Get us a few tons of C4, or similar explosives, and we could rig up the rest. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/156 "2025-10-06T14:21:17Z")
Or just money to buy it in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/157 "2025-10-06T14:21:56Z")
Yes, that too. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/158 "2025-10-06T14:30:20Z")
We watched _The Mouse That Roared_ (1959) yesterday. Maybe Canada should invade the United States and accidentally win. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/159 "2025-10-06T14:31:16Z")
Kinda just missed the prime opportunity to do a decapitation strike. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567/160 "2025-10-06T14:44:11Z")
It’s not going to come out of the blue. There’s going to be drum beats for a long time in advance. He’s not going to get up one morning and just do it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-invade-canada/1023567.md?page=9)