# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/421 "2024-06-21T21:46:32Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > CNN needs to come up with a concrete strategy. I think Trump’s OWN Secret Service detail needs to come up with a strategy, in consultation with Biden’s detail. They should be prepared to move in and place themselves in front of Trump if he gets too close. They don’t have to do anything else - just be a physical presence obviously blocking Trump from approaching. I’d love to see this. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/422 "2024-06-21T21:50:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think Trump’s OWN Secret Service detail needs to come up with a strategy, in consultation with Biden’s detail. They should be prepared to move in and place themselves in front of Trump if he gets too close. They don’t have to do anything else - just be a physical presence obviously blocking Trump from approaching. I’d love to see this. Me, too. But I’m skeptical that they would act for anything less than one of the contenders pulling out something that could be used as a weapon. Which I don’t think even Trump would do. His ego means he wants to be acclaimed the winner based on the dominance of his personality, not based on the effects of a knife-on-flesh. (Of course Trump pulling a knife or gun would certainly provide a quick and colorful test of the Supreme Court’s likely decision on Presidential immunity, eh?) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/423 "2024-06-21T21:54:57Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Concrete wall maybe? Heh. I’ve been trying to find out exactly how far apart the podiums will be, without success. Back in spring 2020 there was a big fuss made of a “six foot” distance for the primary debates; by the fall, it was 12.25 feet PLUS a Plexiglas wall. I’d kind of like to see that wall brought back. Especially if it’s really transparent, and Trump doesn’t know about it in advance. Imagine the GIF that could be made of him confidently heading for Biden’s mic, and hitting the glass like Wile E. Coyote… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/424 "2024-06-21T22:16:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I do agree that Trump is a physical coward. But his fears of what could happen to him in the criminal justice system if his remaining trials go forward will certainly outweigh any thoughts of Joe laying a hand on him. You say that while at the same time arguing that he’s going to commit felony assault on live TV. It’s not going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/425 "2024-06-21T22:17:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You say that while at the same time arguing that he’s going to commit felony assault on live TV. Where have I argued that? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/426 "2024-06-21T22:17:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Where have I argued that? Right here; > [@](#): > > Trump knows that his millions of fans would interpret his taking over Biden’s mic as “manly” and “strong” and “what a leader does.” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/427 "2024-06-21T22:18:29Z")
The debates themselves are pointless, rarely tell us anything about the candidates, and have no relevance to a President’s duties or responsibilities. And people will be carving them up for TikTok clips all night. The only upside I can see is letting people see Biden speak, which many haven’t done since the SOTU. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/428 "2024-06-21T22:21:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Right here; > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump knows that his millions of fans would interpret his taking over Biden’s mic as “manly” and “strong” and “what a leader does.” Nope. That remark contains neither implicit nor explicit messages that I expect Trump to put his hands on Biden. In fact, I said: > [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’m not picturing Trump physically contacting Biden. Your claim has no basis or support. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/429 "2024-06-21T22:23:54Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > The only upside I can see is letting people see Biden speak, which many haven’t done since the SOTU. I agree with your comments (even the ones not quoted here). But letting people who don’t normally follow news see Biden behaving as he did during the State of the Union _ **IS** _ important. They won’t see this anywhere else because they don’t tune in to the news or look at it online or watch Biden’s speeches or anything else that would counter for them the lies about Biden being ga-ga. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/430 "2024-06-21T22:29:38Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Concrete wall maybe? [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Twenty-One-Barry-Van-Doren-1957.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Twenty-One-Barry-Van-Doren-1957.jpg) Might there are a couple of isolation booths left over from 1950s game shows gathering dust in some studio basement? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/431 "2024-06-21T22:32:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That remark contains neither implicit nor explicit messages that I expect Trump to put his hands on Biden. Physical contact is not necessary to constitute assault in most places. In any event, it’s not going to happen - he will stand there, clutch his podium, guzzle his water, mutter “wrong” under his breath every few seconds, and steam impotently while waiting for his turn, because he knows he isn’t strong enough to intimidate Biden or impose his will on him, and someone else is supposed to do that stuff for him anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/432 "2024-06-21T22:40:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > …Trump knows that his millions of fans would interpret his taking over Biden’s mic as “manly” and “strong” and “what a leader does.” _ **Trump Plays By His Own Rules** _ would be the approving headline on all right-wing media.‘’ I’d say it’s even odds that would be the headline in the New York Times given their current anti-Biden bias. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/433 "2024-06-21T22:40:35Z")
It’s official: there’s more actual debate happening in this thread than there will be on June 27 in Atlanta. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/434 "2024-06-21T22:51:34Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > The only upside I can see is letting people see Biden speak, which many haven’t done since the SOTU. And that’s exactly why the R’s are frantically pushing the bullshit of “Biden is all hopped up on goofballs so he can seem strong.” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/435 "2024-06-21T23:07:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But letting people who don’t normally follow news see Biden behaving as he did during the State of the Union _ **IS** _ important. I think it’s also unrealistic. SOTU was scripted. And, regardless of age, performance when someone is trying to trip you up goes down. Even the moderators are there to make this more challenging than reading a speech text. This of course will apply to both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/436 "2024-06-22T00:14:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And that’s exactly why the R’s are frantically pushing the bullshit of “Biden is all hopped up on goofballs so he can seem strong.” Yep. He’s either sleepy Joe or drugged-up Joe, we’ll tell you afterwards, but either way, don’t listen to the actual substance of what he’s saying. ---
**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/437 "2024-06-22T00:26:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > he will stand there, clutch his podium, guzzle his water, Hmmm - one hand on the podium, two hands on the water bottle… “He’s no fun, he fell right over…” ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/438 "2024-06-22T00:29:20Z")
LOL! 2x ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/439 "2024-06-22T00:41:15Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > > The only upside I can see is letting people see Biden speak, which many haven’t done since the SOTU. > > And that’s exactly why the R’s are frantically pushing the bullshit of “Biden is all hopped up on goofballs so he can seem strong.” I’ve heard the left say Trump was an adderal addict long before I heard anything about Biden. I’ve figured it was a way to deflect those accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/440 "2024-06-22T00:48:53Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’ve heard the left say Trump was an adderal addict long before I heard anything about Biden. If by “the left” you mean “people who worked for him for several years”. > **[Former Apprentice Staffer Noel Casler Accuses Donald Trump of Drug Use and...](https://people.com/tv/former-apprentice-noel-casler-accuses-donald-trump-drug-use/)** > > A comedian and former Celebrity Apprentice staffer has accused Donald Trump of recreational drug use [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=23)